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lol, a bit rich of Tex to say that after his GF effort. Didn't scream "success" to me.

wow ok, even better

Didn't we get Hibberd for pick 25ish? Pick 10 for Lever seems fair to me. Increase in price over Hibberd commensurate with his younger age. Plus, as with many trades in AFL land, it's simply the currency we have. Lots of trades will end up being a little 'overs' or 'unders' just because one party doesn't have exactly the right pick/player/combination of the two. Trades still get done because the clubs know that nothing will ever happen if every single club holds out for the exact right price in every single trade.

On Carey - the point of difference for me is that he took responsibility afterwards (although I think it was a long time after) and was contrite. It doesn't make what he did ok or acceptable at all, it was still an appalling act. It simply makes him easier to accept as a member of the media when he also knows and publicly states that what he did was wrong. Hird has yet to take any sort of responsibility for his actions. As you say, he remains unashamedly unrepentant.

http://bananabunker.com/ Apparently it comes in different colours too. For the more adventurous banana storage connoisseur.

I saw this on the internets the other day and thought of this thread. It's old now, but may tickle someone's pickle given the subject matter: http://imgur.com/gallery/EW2SK

Please provide links if you do

Yeah but only Cyril has 'special' goals

Agreed. Pretty sure Cale Mortan had some good early stats too.

I reckon gambling revenue might have something to do with it as well. There are conflicts from everywhere.

I completely agree. It's the 'adding and removing' things from the 'report' (whichever that may be) that interests me in that article. We'll never know the full story and the full extent of who was complicit (and conflicted) in what action. The whole thing is dirty. Still no club-wide punishment for the doping. Only governance failures. WTF.

Yep, maybe. Either way, the fact that stuff has been removed and inserted into a report is troubling.

Bomber Thompson complaining that it ruined his life: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mark-thompson-says-the-essendon-supplement-scandal-will-probably-end-up-killing-him-20170420-gvogq5.html This is the bit that interests me: "I know what happened. I know that there was things that were added to the report, things were taken out of the report not to be seen." According to him, we are still blind to some of the events. The conflicted nature of the bodies involved compromised the contents of 'the report' (I assume this is the initial ASADA report?). He later implies the whole thing is the AFL's fault for not enforcing WADA's rules when Dank was at Gold Coast. His theory is that if they had, then Essendon wouldn't have hired him and none of this would have happened. I don't buy it. Essendon knew who they were in bed with IMHO. They are not the victims.

Oldest team v newest team. Has a kind of symmetry to it. I like it.

I agree that the heat is disproportionate. The club itself was not banned, as would be the case in other 'team' doping convictions. The club still hasn't actually been punished by the AFL for the doping charges, only the initial 'disrepute/admin' stuff. The players lied on their disclosure forms. They knew - but they cop very little heat.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/nine-network-buys-st-kildas-infamous-gatwick-hotel-20170315-guyp79.html Apparently the purchaser of the Gat is the Nine Network, who'll likely be using it for The Block. Possibility for Biff to somehow return to his former nest as a contestant? I'd watch if you were on @Biffen, then I'd tell everyone who'd listen that I knew you before you were famous in an effort to milk some reflected glory. You could use your knowledge of the Gat's darker corners to outfox the other contestants. They'll never know why their tools are always going missing. You could even help them identify the contents of the syringes they find! The more I think about this the more I think it's a good idea. Who wouldn't watch Biff, draped in a blue singlet, tattered shorts and boots, taking a sledgehammer to a GAT toilet? I think I might need some of @Wrecker45's tissues...

I heard that comment too. Not sure how a newspaper can justify telling just one side of the story. The Age at least has come at it from both sides via Caro and Connolly. The Herald Sun has been a bastion of EFC cheerleading, led by Robbo. It staggers me how that man is the head football writer of a major newspaper.

Although one could also look at Robinson's payment as hush money. If you take that track, then these two 'disgruntled employees' might be saying the very things Robinson was paid not to say, instead of looking at a big compo cheque and saying "me too please". It's all conjecture for now. TBH I wouldn't put anything past the EFC though.

lol, I was indeed trying to convey that very notion. Everything is the fault of the patriarchy!

Yeah nah still lost sorry. Either I'm an idiot or it's too subtle. Out with it man!

Why would it be? Symmetry is a tool of the patriarchy.

It's ok BBO. I am here to save the day:

Exactly. For mine, this is something we all knew was happening, but couldn't be proven. Now we can see Gil making assurances he can't have made and the EFC being angry they weren't kept. For that's the drama. The attempted subversion of the anti doping rules by the AFL. Gil's the one who should be under fire here.