Nice&Neitz

Clearly there is an issue with Gartlett wouldn't you say? Even the eagles and Fremantle have shown no interest

Whilst I love the positivity and there are examples of teams seemingly desperate the previous season and the playing finals, I think we need, to quote Neeld, get on the reality bus..... We have axed a number of players and brought a number of players in... Both established, young and talented and fringe players at other clubs...I think as a supporter lets be happy with competitive performances, winning games, and playing hard footy that is attackng...that's where I think the reality is....and where we should be looking.... If we make finals, the that's incredible...but I am looking for those characteristics Neeld wanted when he took over....that would be a realistic expectation, given the players that have been exposed to Neeld and for those that come in from clubs with that mantra..

I just sit back and wonder who is at fault here? Us? Maybe. AFL? Perhaps. Whoever is at fault doesn't matter to me..but what I absolutely hate and despise to know end is where decisions are made without the understanding of precedence... Salary cap breaches ? Illegal payments? Drugs ? These all have rules black and white and have existed for some time. Alleged decisions behind the scenes and on field to lose games may have some evidence from those within the inner sanctum, but where is the breach of rules to discuss club the benefit a priority pick would give a team in desperate need of high quality talent? Have the AFL investigated all other tanking associations with the alleged Kreuzer Cup debacle? Hawks and Pies form slumps? Have the AFL investigated other meetings within that time period for any other clubs? Whilst I have no doubt we didn't exactly want to win games with a priority pick in sight, I can't stomach that decisions will be made based without precedence... All I know is that the AFL need to tread carefully...with the risk of looking like a clown show rife contradiction.. And we obviously need to focus on ensuring its fans are respected...and we are going to games where we can genuinely be proud and respect the club we love so dear... In my opinion all the above is a bi product of the AFL's procedures in place...priority picks reward mediocrity....but there is always going to be scenario's where clubs in dire need of assistance are going to try and work the system to benefit the club... Bring a lottery to the draft....and we can then avoid any alleged actions directed at any club..

Big footy,Facebook, pies supporters I know all skeptical of the deal.... It makes me sick when the armchair critic says "you paid overs" ..such an ignorant and ill informed comment... Melbourne needed a spine.... All of a sudden weare building one... Pick 45 for pick 58? Merely an exchange of late picks... It's effectively Dawes for pick 20... And if no one can see the positivity and ambition in getting a player that is 193cms, 105 kgs, has won a premiership, has proven he can play great football... For pick 20....seriously, you need your head examined... How canyon pay overs for something you don't really know will eventuate? Morton was atop 10 pick for god's sake! There are No guarantees....but he'll, the footy club are going out and being aggressive and getting players that have had success...hopefully they can grow with our youngsters..instead of having a team of developing drafts picks..

Just a quick question to see if anyone could shed some light on how the mini draft works and if this could play a role in The demons snaring Viney without having to use Pick 3 on Viney? Didn't want to create another Viney Thread as I also am unaware of how the mini draft really works.