Ted Lasso

How is a drug agency supposed to do its job when players are writing incorrect information on forms and failing to keep records? Why are players shown sympathy when they at best totally failed to do something simple? I've never seen a player acknowledge their own failures just playing the victim

another thing is because of the way the Hogan situation sits and the raft of young players we have we can't afford to make huge offers to outside stars unless they fit perfectly. if Jesse leaves it would be awful for the club, but the picks we got, say pick 3 and another first rounder we could offer up and try and bring in someone like Tom Mitchell and go to the draft and add another young player.

At least one of the rucks i would have thought, it really depends how much they think playing today would set them back next weekend, obviously they'd love to win today and next week as well

Like him or not tom Boyd showed huge heart tonight after roughead went off

Is this televised on free to air?

Arrogant cats got ahead of themselves.

Rampe is a jet

I assume you don't believe they had any part in concealing information from the appropriate authorities and see this as just some extremely unprofessional young men who didn't understand just how careful they need to be? it's a really interesting point, negligence vs actively cheating.

I'm not sure we're in the position to do a trade like that this year "Redleg" or even what the Swans think he's worth in a trade, i'd say our 2017 first round pick and something else would be a starting point if i had to guess. a club like Richmond however could offer up Deledio and get a first round pick in and potentially make the move a lot easier for Mitchell, obviously he feels the money the Swans are offering isn't enough, and wants to get as close to the same sort of on field success as possible for what he feels is more appropriate remuneration

I think an interesting part of this is how the Hawks plan to get the deal done, if another went to Mitchell with the same sort of offer and said we can get the deal done, he might be a chance to take it because the Hawks will really struggle with this trade.

Out of curiosity Stuie, how do you feel about the backdated 2 year penalties, do you feel it was enough based on what they've been found guilty of?

Jesus, we'd get done for tanking about 20 minutes after the trade went through and Richmond would run away giggling

I agree in terms of their suspensions, i just feel that if the charges stand Jobe should hand the medal back, if he can't prove he did nothing wrong ( which if he could he would have already ) then he can't be sure he hasn't and it's in the interest tof the game that he hands it back. The players are very well educated on this stuff, and have to be very thorough in record keeping

They get a mountain of information on this Stuie, i know AFL players who ask for serial numbers on the bottles of supplements they take for their records, that's how detailed their record keeping is, and was at the time this was an issue, that is what i personally expect from professional athletes so either they cheated or they were extremely unprofessional doesn't really matter, point is they aren't blameless.

the players are 100% responsible for everything they put in their bodies, they're over 18 and they're professional sportsmen, it's harsh but it's that simple. the culture justification i see as being a little weak, i compare that to " all the other kids were doing it so i assumed it would be fine" that doesn't shift responsibility, just shows that these guys either tried to hide behind it, or they are quite unprofessional in how they approached it, either way, they're now convicted drug cheats and there is no way Jobe can keep his brownlow. fairest and best player in the same year he's found guilting of a doping violation.

He does seem like the sort of bloke who as "Mach5" would say, has a pretty good relationship with himself, so maybe he is keen on the Melbourne footy bubble and being in the papers every 5 seconds

that's exactly what i mean, we don't lower our standards for the sake of getting a deal done, we have something they want, if it were to come to a trade, they pay up or miss out.

if it were a future pick i'd want something else as well. they don't have anywhere near as much currency, a 2017 first rounder is only worth a late first round or early second round a year early imo.

I thought what he said was fair enough, he thinks if we got offered 2 picks at the pointy end of the draft we should take it,

Not sure this is the case Saty, i think most appreciate that Gawn needs some help, and we need that help to be able to play forward while the AA ruckman is doing his thing, i think most are suggesting we look at Josh Jenkins type player rather than moving on Spencer. For what it's worth i think Jake is a more than handy backup ruckman and i'd be definitely hanging onto him unless he decides to chase better opportunities elsewhere, but i do think we need another backup ruckman capable at AFL level, wouldn't mind looking at someone like Minson for a year while the younger guys develop a little more.

Ruckman, capable of going forward and taking big contested marks are like gold, he'll get picked up for sure imo

How Robbo is allowed on TV is beyond me, i find it very difficult to watch.

I'd assume they'd want a couple of first rounders for him? he's a handy player but not many sides would give up two good players for someone like that

when a club with little talent wants to trade their Captain it tells you something is up, clearly he's rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.

Daniel to me was by far the most talented of the three, but he's just got a shitty attitude and he isn't willing to commit to the AFL lifestyle and give up the Pizzas