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That is good news. He will have a better chance of getting AFL games as the 1st back up ruckman. Now that Pedobear is re signed and the success with TMc ruck/forward, Jake is 2nd or 3rd back up so little chance of getting games. The club has been pretty decent about these types of trades and won't ask a lot for him so it will be a win/win.

Definite grounds for non-selection (if correct). Not working on identified problems is not smart as Goodwin had shown he is not to be trifled with.

They have the same manager so doing the contracts at the same time makes sense. Also, 2 years is the initial renewal term for a recent draftee. Hunt, Petracca, Brayshaw etc had 2 years on initial renewal. So Oscar got the standard 2 years. The club wanted Tom to sign a long-term contract as he was in hot demand. He declined. He signed for 2 years as it takes him to 8 years with the club ie he has Unrestricted Free Agent status. Tom had seen so many false dawns that even if blind freddy could see the direction we were going there was still serious doubt. I don't see any signs of a brotherly bloc. But I will leave it at that as I have no more facts to offer.

Not sure about that. Lever is a fraction taller than Frost and the same weight. And Oscar is bigger than both of them. (Based on respective club websites). So we would be no worse off strength wise. Lever gives us much more. I don't want to see Frost leave but accept sometimes these things happen. I just hope if he goes it is to a Vic club as he wants to live in Victoria. I guess he can refuse a trade. The club in recent times has been very professional on how it exits players so the same would happen this year.

He learnt from The Master

That seems to be the view on the Match Preview thread - we will soon know.

That may be it. I guess it is important to have as many players as possible available going into the finals just in case. Nonetheless I am really happy for Keilty's upgrade. And, it shows mfc is giving our rookies a real go - 4 of our 6 rookies have been upgraded this year.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/keilty-upgraded-to-senior-list Keilty upgraded - a sign that he will play this week? Someone reported that Tom Mc looked sore so Declan could come in. IF so its, a very big game for him to debut in!!

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/keilty-upgraded-to-senior-list Congratulations to Declan on being upgraded to the Senior list. A sign that he will play this week? Where is @Drunkn167? I bet you and the family are absolutely rapt!

In a recent podcast Jason Taylor didn't sound enamoured with this years draft. He didn't comment on 2018 draft but by all accounts it is a seriously, seriously talented draft. So, that would be a serious upgrade benefiting the Crows. Would prefer to keep 2018 picks intact if we can.

Upgrade Keilty, bring in Joel Smith or Maynard. Or take Watts or Pederson back and bring Weideman in up forward. In reality these would be temporary options for the duration of the injury. I think we have the depth to cover short term absences. This year has shown a few of our players are quite versatile. If Frost goes we will miss him but I think we have options if injuries strike.

Welcome aboard! There is a Queensland Demons Supporter Group on mfc website. Queensland: QLD Demons - Debbie Willder - 0410 424 402 - [email protected] - Facebook They may have a regular spot to watch games - worth a try as its always better to watch games with fellow Dee supporters!

Yes. Even his critics here are saying he is in our best 22 and should be in the team for finals. A worse case scenario is Jack is not selected this week and also plays at Casey during the AFL bye and comes in for the Elim, if we make it. But it would be a brave Goodwin to leave him out this week and risk losing and then the planets misalign and we miss finals altogether. If that happens I would be ropable! It would be an even braver move to leave him out of finals altogether (if we make it). #bringbackjack

No! What makes you think this? Tom and Oscar are in totally different contract positions. Tom is an UFA next year so he will be looking at all his options, regardless of what happens with little bro. And, Oscar is more than good enough to earn a contract in his own right without being carried on big bro's coat tails. There will be other clubs coming at Oscar next year! It is really important to sign Tom up asap to avoid a UFA media beat up in 2018. Last time he signed for only 2 years because he wanted to see how the club progressed. He has his answer. I think he will stay on a long term contract. He wouldn't want to bail now. ...Hopefully, this doesn't derail the Lever thread to a Mcdonald thread but felt it important to ask for clarification on the 'Macdonald brother bloc' theory before people start giving it credence and I wanted to show why they are in completely different contract positions so are not interdependent.

I can see the attraction of Frost to the Crows. They don't have a fast-running-take-the-game-on defender. We have Hunt and Frost. Both have one speed, more or less in a straight line with poor composure. Both players need to improve those 3 elements of their play. But I think a team can only really afford one with those deficiencies in a side. So we keep Hunt and Crows get Frost and both keep working on their deficiencies. If we get Lever and let Frost go it would suggest the club is confident of re-signing Oscar and Tom.

Its good that Jake can look for a new home with the security of knowing he can stay at the Dees if he doesn't find a club that will give him more opportunity. Pleased that the club isn't just going to delist him if he doesn't get a gig elsewhere.

So with immediate knee-jerk reactions the umpires give StKr ruckman 5 frees against Max! I'm not surprised it was StK as whoever won the round 20 game goes into the finals. I've mentioned it in another post; it is incredulous that the club wasn't informed so that Max could change his technique...those frees vs StK could have cost us the finals.

Videos of frees paid against Max and Paddy in this http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-23/strapped-up-to-the-max-dees-unique-training-technique Paddy's arm looked bent and Max either puts his arm out or gets a knee in the ribs or in the head... The article confirms that clubs have complained to the umpires department. And: "It is also believed some clubs are becoming increasingly frustrated that certain players, who they believe are utilising straight-arm blocks in ruck contests are not being penalised as heavily as others". I guess mfc and Port are the ones getting frustrated! As long as umpires are consistent. My fear is that umpires are watching certain ruckman and will ping them. Not good in finals - there are too many umpiring biases already. In the article, Max confirms he is wearing a sling like device at training.

I think so. Recently, Jason Taylor described Hannan as an 'impact' player. He also has a nice side step and is one of the more composed players on our forward line. On average he kicks 1 goal per game. In terms of role, Harmes is playing upfield a bit when Watts is not in the team. With Watts back its harder to find a role for him. Lastly, Hannan played in a winning VFL team last year. So he has finals experience, albeit not at AFL. Harmes would be stiff to miss out...but I would prefer Hannan...just my thoughts...

Hope you are right re Watts and Salem. It is time to settle the team. And we need to maximise our chances of winning this week. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyson went out. He could then have two weeks at Casey and come back for the Elim. If it isn't Tyson for Viney, I think the most likely would be Harmes. A bit stiff for him but he isn't consistent enough to be in our best 22 when the rest are up and about. Crikey, if we make the finals there will be some disappointed players.

Yeah, I like Eddie. He has been good for football despite his bloopers. Now his passion for his club is blinding him to what really benefits his club. As an update: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/revealed-pies-secret-blueprint-for-future-success-including-revamped-footy-department/news-story/c36d3fcbf1915621d970e6a0456e0779 If its true that Ch7 were able to film thru a boardroom window it is mind-boggling incompetent by Collingwood. On the list of things to fix is: "Improving specific areas of Collingwood’s game, including kicking skills, goal kicking, tackling and ruck work". One wonders what Buckley and co have been doing for 6 years. They should let him go.

Their demise since 2011 has been Melbourne-esque. Every part of their club has slowly become a rabble. Recruiting: wasted top draft picks on poor choices (Freeman, Kennedy) and 'young stars' (Treloar, Adams, WH-E, Aish). Then burdened themselves with ageing, injury prone and expensive list cloggers. Football Ops: Revolving door of Football Managers and Directors with Walsh, Eade, Balme, Gubby, Walsh Admin: Long standing favourite son CEO gone. Now looking at Lethlean who has no experience at club level President: Keeps finding new ways of embarrassing himself and his club with ignorant comments. Team: Has a few smart alec players who think they deserve to be playing finals because they work hard. Have yet to learn the meaning of 'Team' or what their game plan is. Coach: Has surrounded himself with buddies and can't develop or communicate a decent game plan. Saved only because of love child status with Eddie. They are deluding themselves if they think a bit of tweaking here and there will get them out of the quagmire. They are in for more pain before they realise they need to do a proper list rebuild ala Demons (WB and Carlton) but as usual they want the quick fix to buy their way back up the ladder. I like Eddie but he is blinded by his passion for his club. Popcorn time!

On Talking Footy and FC last night they talked about other clubs complaining about Max's technique - Redleg posted that he heard similar last week. This week Ryder was in the umpire's gun. I would dearly love to know which club(s) did the complaining. Probably a top 8 club(s) trying to put them off their game before finals. Altho I wouldn't put it past Carlton given the ethics of their doctors and their snidey coach.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-22/blues-land-exhawk-in-offfield-coaching-coup The years with Clarkson give him a good grounding. Why he would want to join Bolton eludes me. Hawks didn't waste any time replacing him as they have employed Glass to replace him. So sounds like it has been in the pipeline for a while. Was once my favourite player. Wish him well.

That is one very happy man!