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5 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:
It could be argued that both Hogan and Jackson were busts as key forwards, in that we couldn't keep them at the club. Whilst we did get decent picks in return for them, it has clearly left a vacuum in personnel and development in that area of our list.
And before anyone claims Jackson is a ruck, he would've been a key forward and 2nd fiddle ruck to Max and currently is that to Darcy (when Darcy's not injured)
There is no doubt Jackson has been a big loss...
Hogan would be really handy now but I think we did well in the trade.
I'm not sure we sold the farm but I get your point.
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5 minutes ago, defuture15 said:
And thats where BBB and TMac exelled in 21 lead up and marking leaving fritter and kossie to create
Yep, but we don't have them or anyone to play those roles at the moment.
...and we didn't have Koz.
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2 minutes ago, kev martin said:
I believe they all have their strengths that the structure doesn't cater to.
Schache can mark well when given clear air and is a good kick. Needs the others to kick well to him and for the halves to pushing be away from goal.
Chandler will hit the ball at pace, manoeuvre in tight areas and when 'on', snaps well. Ball has to hit the ground or a chaos delivery, for him to come into his own.
Laurie is more of a mid, though works best when the stoppages occur, powerful through the hips and will bring others into play.
Spargo is a pressure forward, though if they get the ball into his hands outside the 50, he can hit up players. Bombing it in, then he is focused on the defender and not creating.
Sorry 'kev', but you just can't run a forward line like that at AFL level and expect a positive result against good teams.
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2 hours ago, demon3165 said:
It's been a problem for two years the coach admits it, so tell me how they have tried to make it work when you have a game plan that's down the line play and contest to contest.
That's not to say McAdam who can take a mark that could help but you have to ask why he was not a regular in the crows side.
Lets start with McAdam, like he's not in our side now he spent a lot of time injured at Adelaide.
Ok, we've been through this a lot but you don't want to believe it.
We all know there's a problem, the coach, the FD, the fans, the media...
The game plan can be argued, it drives me to distraction as well.
...but if we don't have the forwards it's no point opening the game up for opposition rebound.
We would get scored heavily against.
As much as I hate the game plan, I don't think it's the issue.
It's the cattle...you can't put out a forward line of Schache, Chandler, Laurie & Spargo and expect big scores.
...but the options weren't really there.
Every time we've come up with something that looks to work injury has struck us down.
Petty straightens us up, McAdam will be a help and I reckon Tholstrup will be a beauty.
Kozzy cost us big time the other night.
The game plan will change when we get the forward mix right. Bringing Salem into the midfield mix will also be a big help, but again injury (Bowey) might torpedo this. I sure hope we persist.
We're not refusing to acknowledge there is a problem, as you say Goody himself acknowledges it to the point of boredom.
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1 minute ago, monoccular said:
we have sold the farm in early draft picks.
Not sure we've sold the farm in early draft picks.
We've been pretty successful.
Weid is the only top 10 KPF of recent times that's been a bust.
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3 hours ago, demon3165 said:
I suggest you better start reading people's post then, people on here refuse to see there is a problem and plenty of them, and yes people watch the game with rose coloured glasses.
I suggest pretty much everyone on here knows there is a problem.
The coach knows it, the FD knows it.
As for the headline about us refusing to address it, I would say that's a crock.
We've tried a raft of things to address it, some have been successful for short periods, others not.
Injury & unavailability has been a big part of the problem...along with unavailable options of players to poach from elsewhere.
That is not refusing to address the problem.
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12 hours ago, demon3165 said:
I along with others have been banging on about this for the last two years hope someone is reading this at Melbourne.
57 minutes ago, demon3165 said:Here is the thing, people only read and see one thing but not the rest of the article, if people here don't think we have had a forward line issue even after Goodwin has admitted it for the last two years then remove the red and blue eye patches to watch the game.
You can't have it both ways '3165'..
We either don't get we have a problem or we do...
...which one is it?
The FD obviously know there is an issue as Goody has consistently stated.
No one here has their red and blue patches on...we all know we have a forward line issue.
Dermott is no genius and all your banging on doesn't change it.
...but it's not an easy fix otherwise it would have already been done.
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11 hours ago, demon3165 said:
I along with others have been banging on about this for the last two years hope someone is reading this at Melbourne.
If you think the FD don't know this and haven't tried to fix the problem you've got rocks in your head.
Every one can bang on about it as much as they want but what is the answer.
You can't make an in contract player just decide to come to us.
The only proven out of contract KPF available over the last few years was BBB and we got him.
Some other contracts have come up but their clubs know their value and have made it near impossible to pry them away.
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2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:
The resting ruck most often being LJ who could move like a flanker at ground level and one of the key forwards being T Mc who couldn't pressure in tight but would always cover off as well as lead hard up the ground.
I think barring the sudden emergence of a genuinely mobile key forward we've got the right balance with just 2 talls alongside Fritsch and Petracca forward quite a bit. At least until we see if Fullarton really is super mobile. I think he's mobile for a second ruck rather than Jacko level freakish.
Plus I just can't see any possibility where BBB coming off yet another injury is right after 1 practice match. Last year he looked shot half way through the second quarter in every game he played, let's give him at least a week, most likely a month at Casey so he can stay healthy and build touch.
And it's not like we aren't making changes. Fullarton, PIckett, a full game of Salem in the midfield and most importantly something that might resemble proper football weather rather than a swamp could all work wonders before we reach for the BBB emergency siren.
No can't see BBB being ready either, that was wishful thinking.
Was going to mention LJ but was posting on the run.
I think Fullerton is the one we've targeted to take this role.
Longer term I think our preference is the 3 talls forward but that really is contingent on the quality and that we don't have at the moment.
Agree on Salem in the middle. He really adds something different. Add a bit of Kozi in there and suddenly we're a bit more unpredictable.
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We used to run with 2 KPF’s & a resting ruck. I would bring in BBB if he’s right to go & Fullerton who is a mobile ruck.
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The only thing that will help Max is Max himself...
If he starts to play better the more he gets targeted then it will stop pretty quickly.
There are players you never physically target for that reason.
You don't want to fire them up into dominant performances.
However, it would be nice to have big Carl in his prime running around in the background.
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36 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:
We really missed Bowser, as soon as he went down the game changed.
It really did as we also had to move Salem out to the middle...
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Laurie, Spargo, Billings, Chandler..keep one of them...probably Chandler.
Tip the rest.
Of course Koz comes back and we need at another tall at least to help JVR.
Look at Tholstrup, Woey, Sestan someone with a bit of extra size and grunt...
...and young Brown who has a bit more zip than the pedestrians we had in last night.
Even look at AMW.
It would have to have been the most boring, ineffective forward line in the AFL for a long time.
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Viney, whilst good was also one of the culprits.
We've lost all semblance of team first footy and have gone backwards.
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16 minutes ago, Webber said:
I feel like Bailey Fritsch gets forgotten in pretty much all discussions about potential goal-kickers for our upcoming games. Just not sure why. He’s easily our best forward, in his prime, an absolute gun, and if stays fit, will win our goal-kicking again this year.
#stopignoringfritta
He sure is 'Webber' and one of the best forwards in the game who also gets left out of that discussion.
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1 hour ago, chookrat said:
Monoccular, the Rough Conduct provisions specifically cover bumps but there is no provision for football actions such as smothers or spoils
...and was his intent to smother or to put pressure on the ball carrier.
I think the later.
The attempted smother was a smoke screen.
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We will all know at the end of September...
These predictions are set up to make us all look like fools.
1 hour ago, Demonland said:GARRY LYON
Top 8 changes: Geelong IN, St Kilda OUT
Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Been trending towards this for 5 years. They’re ready.”
1 hour ago, Demonland said:Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Perfectly placed to go one better after meeting a better team on Grand Final day last year, and blowing a golden opportunity when the grand final was at the Gabba.”
So, let me say that things rarely go in a straight line as far as life and sport are concerned.
Brisbane to have a rocky ride this season...
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10 hours ago, kev martin said:
I believe his challenge will be dealing with some sledging
I'd be surprised...
In most cases these days personal stuff would be a no go zone unless you're a certain Brisbaner.
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25 minutes ago, binman said:
In fact, a better comparisons is probably Joe Daniher, who was woeful in the ruck when they first started using him there, but is now more than serviceable.
I think Joe is still hopeless in the ruck...it's his work on the ground with 2nd and 3rd efforts where he comes into his own.
Going to be interesting to see how the rule change effects him.
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1 minute ago, Demonland said:
On something so straight forward...really
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According to the AFL's defence against the class action it must be Mark Keane's fault for playing & the Crows for putting him out on the ground.
SPP has no case to answer...
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2 hours ago, Demonland said:
No Verrell so assume that Schache will be the backup ruck.
That's a pity...
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22 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:
Hea certainly all of that. But he's also been trialled previously in the midfield in the past (2018) with little to no success. Hopefully because he's matured since and has gained more experience he'll be much better in that role, because right as we speak, we absolutely need him fit for the whole year.
We sure do 'dazz'...
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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:
Not sure how you can name Salem, Rivers and Kozzie as 'bloody good midfield' options when there is still a lot of unknowns on whether they can step up when needed.
I think Salem is such a smart player...his quick hands and thinking around the contest if back to full fitness will be a positive.
Plus he is a strong tackler.
So, his ball use and defensive pressure could be a real positive in the midfield.
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