rjay

Sydney getting a good run from the umps...

Good to hear Sando going for the Cats...love his analysis but his tips are more often wrong.

I thought the time to move was at the end of last season...

Great player.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

As Smith’s case has still not been dealt with, which is a disgrace in itself given the scenario, I feel we should be able to put him on the LTI list or similar and agree to pay out this year his last and have another spot for the mid season draft, if we want to use it.

It seems very unfair he can’t play, but has still not had his case dealt with. 

Seems to be par for course in these situations. The Rioli situation dragged on for nearly 2 years.

For whatever reason I don't know but as you say unfair.

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The next 2 weeks will depend on whether our Midfielders can find form…

4 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Absolutely. Ain't it just about the clearances.

Yes, our mids need to be at their best. We're competing against 2 other contenders & it's one of our strengths.

As for clearances, the Cats were belted in the first half but comfortably ahead on the scoreboard.

...an interesting 2 weeks in a long season coming up.

2 hours ago, Lexinator said:

AFL hasn't crossed this bridge yet, but I can see this as suspendable offence in the future

Whatever is old is new again.

In the old VFL days what Pickett did was called striking & he could have expected 2 to 4 weeks.

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We got owned by Brisvegas for 4 Quarters, but you call it an overreaction. 
Did you actually watch tonight’s game?

It's a long season "SWYL'...don't get too hung up on one game.

On 20/04/2024 at 20:52, monoccular said:

Sadly I believe given the reasons for him not playing he cannot be out on a LTI list. 
It is  however taking a hellova long time. What has happened to “justice delayed, justice denied”?

On 21/04/2024 at 07:23, Clintosaurus said:

If he played for certain other clubs, he would have been cleared and playing again already. Most of them won this weekend.

On 21/04/2024 at 08:28, Redleg said:

Does he qualify for the good bloke defence?

On 21/04/2024 at 13:03, Redleg said:

I think we are now into about 8 months on this and no result.

Imagine if he was a Chinese swimmer and they found that his sample was contaminated.

 

I think Willie Rioli's case took 18 months to get to a resolution. Then his 2 year penalty was backdated to reflect his time in limbo.

Looks like we might be a player down for a while yet.

26 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

but nrl is 90% contact. same with thugby ... no contact, no nrl, no thugby

nrl has banned the shoulder charge but still get multiple concussion checks per game

a bit off topic but what about striking the ball with your head in soccer. thousands of hits over some players careers

The rugby codes will end up as pro touch football I reckon, I just can't see them lasting too much longer.

A good question re soccer...my soccer mad mate tells me the header has been on dangerous ground for a while now. The ball is a lot lighter and waterproof now so there is not the damage that was done to many past players...however he says they still get tiny concussions each time they head the ball...so maybe that part of the game will have to go.

Remember these games have been around for only a very short time in the scheme of things, a couple of hundred years give or take.

Everything evolves...

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

boxing and wrestling will be in big trouble then

anyone for non contact nrl?

1 hour ago, binman said:

I don't think so (that it will become a no contact sport).

Boxing is in big trouble...

NRL along with AFL will end up non contact, it's just a matter of time.

10, 20, 100 years..

Will all go the way of the Coliseum & the Gladiators.

It really doesn't matter, we've had a good run with it, enjoyed the game & may or may not be around for the final demise.

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I was asking a rhetorical question but it seems that it is the way we are heading. 

Yes it would be ridiculous enforcing it (in particular with 4 umpires and different interpretations) but what's new with the AFL?

Perhaps consideration should be given to how 'hard' players attack the ball? It's been a foundation of our game but they seem to want to eliminate contact.

We were always taught to 'go in hard you won't get hurt' but maybe that has to change.

Its already become like basketball which I hate .....

I think there is going to be no choice and contact sports worldwide are in trouble here.

It will end up a no contact sport.

I can't see any other option.

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think you've got to do something but I'm not sure how you enforce it.

1 hour ago, binman said:

In terms of reducing the likelihood, and severity for that matter, of concussions I hadn't really considered this.

But, you're right it should be in the mix.

I'm not quite sure how they would enforce it. A free I guess.

It would a bit tricky, for example differentiating between running back with the flight to spoil or mark and coming in from an angle.

But the game is full of tricky decisions. 

 

Maybe make an adjustment to the front on contact rule that already exists...

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

So at what point do we outlaw players running back with the flight of the ball?

Our is that 'brave'?

I think you've got to do something but I'm not sure how you enforce it.

Elliot Yeo is back in form...

1 hour ago, Axis of Bob said:

If he marked it then he would have been contesting the ball, which is legal. Bumping the face whilst not contesting the ball is reportable.

My problem is with players running recklessly back with the flight of the ball.

It used to be a mark of courage but honestly it's just plain stupid.

I can remember doing it twice when I was playing.

One I got away with, a spectator who used to be a VFL captain was on the boundary side it happened and said basically what were you thinking.

The 2nd time I wasn't as lucky and got a chest full of busted ribs.

Yes, what Greene did was illegal in football terms but if he had of followed through with the marking attempt we might had had a terrible situation.

Players need to be protected from themselves.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

That's not true.

If he simply put his arms out to take the mark, no issue.

He braced and hit other player's face with his braced arm and shoulder. That is what they are trying to stop. The aerial or on ground shirt front to the head.

Might be lucky and get a week. Giants would be mad not to take that.

Absolutely it's true...In a marking contest like that he's in his rights to raise his knee.

That wouldn't be good.

So what Greene should have done is go for the mark...

In effect he would have nearly killed his opponent if he had of gone for the mark.

I think it's becoming incumbent on players not to run back into a marking contest front on, it's sheer stupidity.

This is where it's different to the Wright incident, in that case the player was coming back to the ball.

27 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Yeo despises the Dees. Would never happen. 

What did we ever do to him?

8 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

elliott yeo ooc at the end of this year too...

I posted in last years trade period that we should look at Yeo given WC were in rebuild mode.

Was back to his best last night & would have been more than handy for us...particularly with Gus retiring.

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Harley Reid. An absolute freak. The most Dusty player I’ve seen since Dusty. I can see why West Coast refused every offer they got for him. 

He's absolutely killing Freo...

...and then Yeo takes multiple tacklers on & treats them like they were under 10's.

You've got to line up the ball..not just put a hand out and run past it.

That's why Port are pretenders at the moment...

2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Salem being able to run just over a week after doing a hamstring is a good sign.

It's pretty normal from my experience.

The difficult part is getting back to full pace.

2 hours ago, Rob Mac...... said:

I agree "rjay".   
I read lips and body language pretty well and very closely watched their defenders appearing to heavily try to get inside his head when off the ball.   (Not just that mock crying taunt.)

I hope he gets a little help/advice so that becomes water off a ducks back to him.

They were certainly getting into him 'Rob'.

Aligned with his lack of preseason & not getting a clear run with injury, his confidence is well down.

His kicking is a symptom of that.

15 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

A VFL review. What on earth! How, why, amazing!

Personally I think it's best for the coach to just go through the best 5 performances because trying to say nice things about guys who had stinkers isn't worth the effort, young guys don't need that publicly. But I'll take the full thing over nothing at all.

Love including a couple of the VFL guys. Paddy Cross was excellent. Worth watching if he can keep up that kind of form.

I used to enjoy Mark Williams short lived player reviews.

A bit too honest for some and disappeared never to be seen again.

38 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

I also believe that the under 18's competition should be scrapped and the under 19's competition replacing it as I think they are drafted to early, an extra year means they can concentrate on finishing school before they get into the system.

I think the draw on talent across all sports make that near impossible now.

...and, should you hold players like Reid back another year when they are clearly ready to step up for the benefit of others like Jeffo who are clearly not.