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Next pick at 33?

Cal Twomey phantom Pick 24 178cm/76kg 24/3/02 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro Forward/midfielder Another player who gave scouts an insight into his capabilities last year in the NAB League, with Laurie piecing together an excellent finals series for the Oakleigh Chargers. He's a smaller midfielder who can also be positioned inside-50 with good foot skills, a turn of speed and dash of skill. Has his fans in the second round.

Knightmare phantom. 24. GWS - Bailey Laurie Height, Weight: 179cm, 78kg Profile: With impressive speed, agility and evasion, Bailey Laurie impacts games as a small forward who can push through the midfield for periods. While his movement stands out, he lowers his eyes and finds inside 50m targets by foot, is an excellent front-and-centre crumber and provides second and third tackle efforts.

Everyone is saying he is a small forward, but in sure he played a lot of wing? @Whispering_Jack

Aha. Nice. I saw it was over 2 nights and thought they had split it again. Rookie draft tomorrow.

How many picks are done tonight? Round 1?

Here we go

Hoping Jordan goes back to being developed as an outside mid. I don't get a chance to watch Casey games but there were a lot of supporters who said this kid would make it. The rookie list isn't somewhere I expected him to be after the posts I read on here

It could be 1) that he is over here visiting his dad and the club has done the right thing by inviting a potential father/son draftee to train with us knowing that he is 99.5% certain to join Freo 2) he has flipped and chosen us which has blind sided freo 3) Freo have told him that they won't pick him. He hasn't set the world on fire recently playing for peel thunder colts.

Wow I am getting old and losing it. I was certain he had chosen freo already, was picked up last year and had been on their list for a full season.

Great effort @Nascent very much appreciated.

I was intrigued by this myself the other day and went through a fair few phantom drafts to determine where players would be bid on, the points that would be required and the picks that would be eaten up to equal the bid. Unfortunately, by my calculations it wasn't as favorable as i thought it would be for our later picks. You mention that the doggies will have to use pick 26 on JUH which will bring in our picks 28 and 50. However, I don't think you have taken into account that the doggies will essentially just move their pick 26 up to pick 1-3. Meaning, that our pick 28 would stay where it is based on that factor alone as all the other picks from the bid on wards would be shunted back a position until 27 which would remain the same. The good part (that you mentioned already) is that the Doggies later picks in this bid would also be used up, meaning that 31, 41 and 42 would likely get used up too. The sad part is that there are a large amount of academy kids who are predicted to be taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds too... The gains that we make up from the Doggies picks etc are not as good as once again our late pick gets pushed back. I was going to type up my notes, but its not 100% accurate with the trades that have gone on since trade week, but essentially I had worked out our picks to likely fall this way 18+4=22 19+4=23 28+6-1=33 (realistically it will be 34 now that the doggies have traded pick 26) 50+11-16=45 So really we lose out except for pick 50 which comes in 5 places :(

I get the angst and I agree that his premiership medallions aren't worth as much as others. Yeah, he was at the highest level and should have got the best out of himself no matter what the scenario was. But think about how poorly the club was being run. Our priorities: Losing games. High draft picks. Arguing with suppliers about the colour red. Blazers. Complicated logos. The presidents health. Whiteboards. At the time I was really disappointed with how Chip left the club. In hindsight I think it was a fantastic decision for him and don't begrudge him a single thing.

Nominated for the draft for an AFL career. Was very unlucky to be picked up by a club which was about everything except winning games.

Ok... do we have rookie space to move KK?

Hmm... Collingwood have another Daicos father/son next year who is going to go top 10. They won't mind if they are in deficit going into next year as thier first rounder will go towards him. They might be willing to give up their first round pick if we could give them some points back in return and cut their deficit this year.

I dislike the advantages the clubs with real academy's get, but the advantages for the league as a whole is too much to abandon them. The AFL have got the marketing right these days in NSW and QLD in regards to the kids. There were junior AFL leagues set up in the off seasons years ago, meaning kids didn't have to give up the NRL and could dabble in AFL. All of a sudden there are a heap of kids with more of an interest and lot realise they are more suited to this league. With a few generation changes there will be far more interest and we will have a much larger pool. There has to be a vested interest in the clubs training these kids, so unfortunately I think they are here to stay. Or the AFL finances them independently of the clubs but I can't see that happening. There will be changes to the NGA academys though. So the other clubs will be pulled back a bit.

If true then our pick 50 will be a super late pick. Still hoping we will package it up to move up into the mid first round otherwise it wasn't a great move to trade it in. I thought that it would come in a bit due to clubs matching bids, but by my calculations it will only end up coming in about 5 spots to pick 45.

Fully agree on what you are saying, but I cannot see Sydney giving up thier 2021 first rounder. I've done the rough maths and they only need to cover around 376 points. They are much more likely to offer their future 2nd as a trade to a club and get burner picks back in exchange. This would still be a great deal for the club giving up late picks. Mahoney has come out publicly and said we might be moving up the draft. I found it strange that he would say this and think that there is a potential plan in place already depending on how the draft plays out. Personally, I think our plan was to bundle 19, 28 and 50 up to move up the draft. It's about 1800 points or the equivalent of pick 6 (we would have to pay overs so would likely get pick 10-14). I cannot figure out who would need points bad enough to do it though.

One of the most entertaining things this off season so far is to see you take the bait and carry on like a pork chop. Thanks for the rumours and the entertainment

You can have as many picks as you have available list spots. If a team delisted 20 players they would have 20 rounds of picks. Its a common misconception as the phantom drafts and AFL website often only bother going up to the third round. Also, there is a rule that you must use 3 picks in the draft. Not sure if that rule still applies these days.

The phantom drafts have Sydney's kids going at 6 and 22. They will be short on points by 376 points (equivalent of pick 43) if this occurs. (I reckon the first kid will slide like Green did last year). If they go into deficit their first pick next year will be pushed back. They will desperate for this not to happen. However, Sydney's first pick next year a good one. Potentially top 5 again. There is no way they trading out of the first round for around pick 22-25 this year. They will be much more likely to trade a future 2nd or 3rd round pick for an extra pick around 43 to make up the 300 odd points. They will finish up with 3 excellent kids and keep their excellent pick for next year.

I'm sure it was Barry Prendegast.

It will be really interesting to see how Jason Taylor attacks this draft. Will he stick to the best available practice, or will we be targeting positions where we have holes in our list? There are a lot of KPP in the top end of the draft. Will he pick one if they slide? Picking another inside mid would likey annoy many of us.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I think Salem has the tools required. But in 2019 when we are crying out for 2 wingers and the coaches refuse to play Salem in those roles, you have to figure they have made a decision for whatever reason that he isn't suited. I would be shocked if that reason was that we have no half back flankers to play Salems role. Even as typing this I realise how often Goodwin has done this though!