Jaded No More

Anyone who goes to North doesn’t have success at the forefront of their mind. I don’t want those types at our club. Next. Dylan Shield anyone?

How was that goal he slotted late in the game from the pocket? Not bloody bad!

Was bloody good today

I'm surprised North have offered him a lifetime deal at $2m, such is their pathetic desperation to land a decent footballer.

Showed heaps in a very high pressure game. Was quiet in the second half, but that is to be expected when he has barely played any AFL games and it was very warm. We played a lot smaller in the second half too with Hannan and Melksham deep forward and even Oliver at times. Really pleased for him. I especially loved how confident he looked. Absolutely did not look like a kid out of place out there anymore. He believes in himself now.

I loved that he took the full amount of time with his last goal and milked some more, asking the umpire how long, like he didn't hear. Good man!

Suck it Essendon!

Really??

You’d have to be seriously desperate for cash to go to North over Melbourne or even Essendon. If Gaff picks North good luck to him. I don’t want anyone at our club who cares only about money. Winning and success has to be the main motivation if you come to Melbourne, as we have lots of great players we need to fit into the cap going forward.

Bit rich considering he has also spent a bit of time on the injury list, and was about 12kgs wet when he got to Melbourne. Having said that, it is his time now to show us that he is worth the early pick we invested in him. Needs to stand up and deliver, and they should play him from now until the season ends, whenever that may be. Regardless of how he performs. Nothing to lose, as literally we are cooked.

Would love Jonathan Brown to do some coaching with him in the off season.

But they are already in the team, and there is nothing stopping them now from being those targets kicking big numbers every season, least of all Hogan who is dragging away the best defender, sometimes two. Without Hogan those players won't simply get magically better, and none of them are tall enough to be KPFs, except Weids, who again has shown nothing to suggest he can replace Hogan's output now or in the near future. And if you think Hogan doesn't perform in big games, lets talk about the last time Petracca stood up and delivered in a game, any game.

We already get max output from Tmac. Weideman is a total unknown. I have yet to see him do anything at AFL level to suggest he is any good. Petracca is a bigger downhill skier than Hogan. Gawn is a full time ruckman. Will never play enough forward to kick 50. Hannan? Lol. What you're suggesting, is that by getting rid of Hogan we will magically get other players to step up and cover his 50 goals, although even with him in the team taking the best defender, neither Trac nor Weiderman nor Hannan have cracked 30 goals between them in a season.

OK lets say we could trade Hogan for Kelly who is a superstar, who does Kelly kick to up forward? Where do we get 50+ goals a season from? If we trade Hogan, we have to at the very least replace his output like for like, if not better it. If you can find me a KPF Hogan's age who will kick 50+ goals a season, every season, then I'm super open to discuss a trade.

Sure, but some people place far too much importance on the body language of a 22 year old. Imagine if Richmond went "Reiwoldt is a sook, trade him". To be honest, if you went through what he went through last year, you'd be sulking too. It's bloody human nature. And I thought he was very passionate and worked very hard yesterday, even when hampered by the ankle. He missed a few easy shots on goal, but so did Tmac. Should we trade him too? His body language has improved dramatically and it stands to reason that as he matures, so will his demeanour. Again, I want to know who people think we can trade for him that will make us BETTER. Peter Wright has kicked 59 goals since 2015. Hogan has 47 goals this year alone. Please lets not make our list worst.

I'm as [censored] as anyone about our constant failure to deliver under pressure and be a successful club, but trading a young gun KPF is literally the worst solution to our problems. Hogan is performing as well if not better than also any forward his age, both currently and historically. We need to look at making our list better, not worse. I want to know who everyone thinks we could realistically get for Hogan in a trade, who would categorically make us a better team. I am open to suggestions.

Jack Reiwoldt says hello

Agreed. Hennebry got better delivery in our forward 50, than both Hogan and TMac. FML!

Our list, Hogan included, is not the [censored] problem. For once we actually have a good list!!! We have a better list than half the teams currently in the 8. The problem is we are mentally [censored] and we are not well coached.

I lol’ed

The real question is, how can such lovely people (The Brayshaws), be related to that [censored] from North Melbourne?

Don’t think we need to feel sad for Gaff. Andrew is gonna suffer for a long time. A footy suspension is not a big deal in the context of what Andrew is going through. But I understand where you’re coming from.

I think it's good that he has flown in, he isn't playing this week, so why not fly in and actually front up to what you did. It's admirable, and honestly I hope he goes in there, apologises, says what he did was inexcusable, cops his whack and moves on. If West Coast go in there with all guns blazing trying to defend his actions, I'll spew. Cop it, deal with it, show remorse, move on. (Might also be down here to spend time with family, as he is clearly going to be out for a long time)

You're right, we are such a soft society for thinking that punching someone and breaking teeth and jaws is not worthy of severe punishment. We should ease up on domestic violence, one punch strikes and drink driving too. Soft!

He looks like a tinier version of our Gus, which only upsets me more. Glad to see him in good spirits. I'm sure he'll get the best medical care and make a full recovery, although broken jaws and lost teeth is a very nasty long recovery process to endure for anyone, let alone a professional athlete. Not being able to eat solids will no doubt impact negatively on his muscle mass and so forth.