Jaded No More

No doubt Melbourne will play Sydney at the SCG. Bookmark it.

That really is a steal. [censored] Collingwood

Adelaide pulling a Dodoro. How embarrassing.

You have to ask yourself if WCE won't trade with North or Hawks because they are direct rivals in terms of rising up the ladder. However trading with Melbourne is a minimal risk as we are not on the same timeline.

Why not? He's 23. If he proves next year that he can be a power forward, as well as a proven key position defender, then why would his value be any lower? Are Adelaide or Port magically finding another 24 year old key forward/defender elsewhere who wants to relocate to SA? Port will be just as keen and will have better picks than they have this year. Could have a bidding war, plus give us 12 months to find a replacement.

Clearly it is in Melbourne's opinion, which is why they have said he is not getting traded. If Adelaide came to the table with 10 and a tall forward, we probably would do the deal. But they haven't, so they can take a hike.

IF Petty asks for a trade then picks 10 and 14 don't help us get a flag next year. Reid and Caddy might be sensational footballers, but the chances of them helping fill the key forward gap we will be left with in 2024 are close to 0. Our window is wide open while Gawn and May are still going. Petty is out of contract in 2025, which is also when Gawn and May will likely retire. If we don't go all out next year for a flag, and we say to Petty ok you want out we will trade with Adelaide, we are conceding that our chances of winning a flag in 2024 are slim. I would rather back us in, hold Petty to his contract regardless, go all out to win a flag and then worry about his desire to return home later. We can get the Reid deal done without trading Petty, and if we can't, we are still going to be in flag contention. Reid in and Petty out doesn't get us closer to a flag IMO.

But the deal is NOT in Melbourne’s favour that’s the point We can’t win a flag next year without Petty unless we replace him with another ready made forward. So why then would we do this deal when Petty has not asked for a trade and has two years left on his contract? Every chance he’s worth more next year and we don’t have a top 6 pick in hand.

How is this an opportunity of a lifetime? All Crows have offered so far is pick 14 and a player who doesn’t wanna be there. Offer us a replacement forward and pick 10 then we can think about this so called opportunity of a lifetime.

My guess is they'll up their offer to pick 10 from pick 14, and we will tell them to take a hike

Have Adelaide come out and requested Trac in the trade for McAdams yet?

99% of their players aren’t worth [censored]

We are not going to trade JVR anymore than we are going to trade Petty. Not for pick one not for anything. Not unless they come out and demand a trade.

Schache is not a ruck backup. And yes I know I know why did he play the sub role blah blah blah. He is a forward backup.

Which is ludicrous because McAdams and Petty are in no way intertwined. Melbourne would never accept McAdams as part of a trade for Petty unless he was just a freebie thrown in on top of picks and a better player.

No because Melbourne wouldn’t trade Pickett after he just signed a 4 year deal. And Pickett is not going to WC either.

Yep, at that size he is at least 1-2 years away from peaking

McAdams doesn’t want to play for Adelaide. It’s why he asked for a trade.

What evidence do you have that Petty isn’t happy to stay and play for Melbourne? If he doesn’t come out and ask for a trade then he’s clearly very comfortable and committed to stay.

How embarrassment for Adelaide if a mediator needs to get involved. You’d think we are dealing with a trade for Marcus Bontempelli for goodness sake.

I bet my bottom dollar Norf would have got pick 3 for him regardless. AFL finds ways to manipulate the rules constantly. As for Essendon, lol at collecting rubbish from every corner of the planet in a sad attempt to win a final after 900 years.

Do not get me started on the joke that is pick 3 compo for McKay. I’m still furious how many freebies Norf are getting for their own putrid list mismanagement. They played finals not that long ago for goodness sake!

I understand your point, but this is a free hit. We aren’t using this pick in the draft anyways so who cares.

But unlike Melbourne they need to bring in a lot of players. Same with West Coast. They won’t want to give up 2 or 3 because they know they’ll get two really good players versus 1. Strategically too West Coast wouldn’t want to give North anymore access to the draft. They’ll want 2 and 3 for 1, because North is directly competing with them for a climb up the ladder. Whereas Melbourne is not. Of course they’ll swap 1 for 2 and 3, but I don’t think 2 and 13 will put them in a better drafting position than 6 and 11, especially if they can get Curtin at 6 who is the one they really want.