Moonshadow

The fact is that we've been shocking since Morton went out of the team. Perhaps that's a coincidence, but the run and (believe it or not) good footskills he provides has been sorely lacking this past few weeks. .

Well, now I've heard it all.

Morton has good foot skills and run? And we are somehow vastly better than shocking with him in the team?

Let's get that gazelle-like champion back in the seniors!

We need his laser left foot passes to the opposition so that we can turn over more goals!

i would have thought that both Rivers and Green have shown they are not one dimentional players

Green has played just about every position on the field in his career at melbourne apart from the ruck and full back, and as we have seen this season Rivers is holding his own down forward

Rivers kicked 4 against GWS and that's just about it as far as forward highlights go (unless you are including some shocking set shots)

Garland has been more of success in the forward line this year.

Time for Riv to go back again.

And this year Green has been NO dimentional at AFL level. But, of course, he stars at VFL level.

if Melbourne traded there first pick, I am sure that one cannot be outbided on the priority pick. Therefore we could get an experienced player and pick viney up later.

???? Priority or F/S???

Father/son deals are sorted out BEFORE the trade period. This has been covered at length in every JV related thread here.

What we should keep them all, one dimensionals.

No. Just pointing out that we have a fair few one dimensional players. Moloney's certainly not alone.

Sorry dees not deed.

Maybe you could give us your highly valued thoughts on where the team is going wrong and, back on topic, whether or not Brent Moloney will be with us next year?

Shallow sweeping statements do not equate passion.

I think Moloney is more one-dimensional than most of the players on our list.

More than Jamar? Rivers? Green?

Melbourne is the laughing stock of the competition.

Are you trolling?

What, precisely, is his value to Melbourne?

A lot less than it was 12 mths ago, which makes the next contract negotiation difficult for the Club and him. He would be wanting a good deal based upon perceived potential, not upon current form.

When is his contract up?

Could his lack of leg speed this year be explained by this?

Howe and Jones definitely need to be signed soon.

C'mon Dees, get it done!

Now, now, children....

I've had a gut feel all year that Brent Moloney is just going through the motions.

Doesn't seem happy, hasn't been playing well, hasn't signed yet, declaring his wanting to stay

Iike Jamar.

Hasn't been doing his boxing camp, and isn't twittering much anymore.

Reckon we will trade him to the Bombers.

Maybe your gut feel was the vindaloo you had last night.

I would like him to stay.

A potential 'draw-card' (if he's not one already) and definitely a 'must sign'. Give him good money (front ended) but for 3 years max imo ............ and hope like hell that he doesn't come back to earth too awkwardly after one of his speccies.

Like Mitch did.

3 years, perhaps with incentives. Front load if possible. Avg $300k per yr.

That is very generous for a second year player with skill issues.

If he is the star many say, negotiate a new contract half way through his new 3 yr deal.

No chance. We will take the option to get a gun midfielder while we can.

Certainty is a good thing.

Pick 1, 2, 3 or 4.

The franchises will risk one of those to call our hand.

They know it is as near as certain we will take him.

We would do the same to them without a second thought.

We've already signed him to a so-called MOU.

He trains with us and his father (a club favourite) heads our draft scouting.

Let's play all the bluff we can, but lets not whine when he's called at pick 3 (or 4, if GC get a priority pick).

Everyone forgets that GC may get a priority pick....which would almost certainly mean they ll bid on Viney as they'd still have another pick to fall back on

And I fear that JV is just what GC would like - a hard, inside mid that continually feeds it out to their runners.

Too generous on Bate. Can turnover the footy with the bottom group. Jack Watts also turned the ball over 3-4 times agst the Tigers.

Sylvia is by far our best user, short & long, with Jones not far behind.

Only a couple of years ago Jones used to regularly butcher the ball by foot. He has worked hard to improve that to the extent he is now accurate and clever by foot (usually).

It goes to show that foot skills can be improved with persistence and work.

I agree that fitness helps many players, as skills are usually first to suffer when they are spent.

In for life.

Like i said, check your facts before making an argument.

I did not quote that, it was another demonland poster.

and for the sake of it, in defense of whoever did post that quote, they said that those players didn't miss a beat. Whether they played in round 1 or not, is a totally different thing to missing time during the pre-season, nab cup or the first 'few' rounds.

Keep trying please, its amusing how big this hole is getting.

Ouch!

I think he was referring to leading teams in general, not Leading Teams™

Correct. Thanks

We would have to give up one of our first 2 picks to secure pick 1or 2 in the mini draft. Otherwise, a highly valued player (eg Watts, Frawley, Jones, etc). Too many other clubs would do this for them. Do we honestly think we're the only ones bidding for them?

Let's get real and stop bandying around Bate, Morton, and any other hack we have (queue roll call now...) as trade bait for a high pick or high quality player.

To get something good, you gotta generally give something of perceived equal value.

Sad how few MFC players are on that list and those few are generally terrible kicks (Frawley, Garland).

We seem to attract young players recently who have a red hot go (Nico, McDonald, Magner, Bail), but who also have shite disposal and appalling decision making.

Or should I say, no one else picks them up in the draft, hence their cricket score draft pick number.

Time to follow the leading teams and put a high priority on disposal when recruiting, partic in the midfield. Hawks, Eagles, Filth and Cats all have many great disposers of the ball.

My love to you all.

Geez, we are a bunch of pessimists, aren't we? MFCSS???

The guy plays a few good games, steadily improving each week after having a bad run with injuries and we collectively trash him to the point where some are calling for him to be traded!

No need for our opponents to play mind games in the media and try and put us down. We're doing a pretty fine job of that ourselves!

Get a grip people.