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hmmmm - but did Frawley press and ask how many games he will be "here" next year as the Giants will play us at least once on the G next year so he will definitely be here - and then theres games he plays against the co-tenants at the G.....I'm tipping he will be here next year at least 4-6 times ? ( tongue pressed so firmly in cheek that it is dangling out of my ear)

Interesting Paul and OMR - I have zero idea - but it will interesting to see how it plays out. I always live in the "refuse to speculate" camp - but I have posted elsewhere about Ross Lyon's handling of the question on his future today. Lots of land posters were reading into what Tom said and didnt say in his March presser. Those posters will have a field day on Ross Lyons answers today. Ambiguity personified.

I mentioned this on the new coach post - I for one will be dark on Scully is he leaves as I found his presser in March unambiguous - " i want to be a one club player and envisage that will be the case, can see where we are going," He even answered how he can turn down the money. I am not sure how he can turn his back on his statements in the press conference. On the other hand - look at what Ross Lyon has said - a complete "non denial" denial.

might be.... Do you think our new coach is already onboard ?

Ross Lyons press conference today At the time Lyon categorically denied the speculation and he did so again on Tuesday morning when he spoke to reporters ahead of St Kilda's elimination final against Sydney on Saturday night. "Let me just clear it up for everyone in the room, my position hasn't changed, like (Collingwood coach) Mick Malthouse I don't deal in rumour and innuendo," Lyon said. "Certainly I'm as committed as I've ever been to my role and my status hasn't changed one iota, I think that just answers it for everybody." "I've answered everything to do with that topic so I'm not going to indulge any more." In the words of Jason Robards in "all the presidents men" - a "non denial" denial.

That's because our boys can do no wrong ( on the field excluded...) I have no doubt our boys like all others play games to increase their pay packet. I have no doubt that Sylvia's manager this year and Greens a few years ago ( to mention two) absolutely waved potential other offers in front of the club to raise the pay packet. I think what we all forget is there is no other game in town at the moment except GWS and GC17. Sylvia is a case in point - the only way he could get to the Swans ( who purportedly had a contract ready) is offer up a suitable trade. The next way is the national draft like Ball - wouldnt have got past GWS - or PSD with a price on his head and there is little chance of him getting past GC17 or at least still being there by Sydney's pick. The landscape will change with free agency though ...ewww

The difference being that whilst Palmer may be wanted by the Giants - you would think that they are not going to have to pay much of a premium. Whether we like TS's performance or potential to date you would have to agree that TS has more currency than RP and doesnt need other parties outside MFC and GWS to push his price up. ( same goes for Ward and Davis - no need for third parties to be hovering to increase the $$ that GWS are offering)

I would rate the year a 3 out of 10. Five is a pass mark and we certainly didnt pass this year. Par with last year is a fail - stagnation - and that would rate a 4/10. We had a poorer year than last year therefore I rate us a 3/10. I gotta stop thinking about this stuff.

Lets not kids ourselves - its about the money

The talk has been Sam Mitchell who is contracted 1/ For the first pick 17 year old - O'Meara 2/ A guarantee of no Hawks next year ( because GWS still could as Mitchell is contracted as opposed to uncontracted)

"Failpatrick. Where do we find these guys." Nah thats a pot shot at a first gamer. Then you havent been watching for many a year. More often than not debutants dont fare all that well..You have obviously Jack Watts debut. You have obviously forgotten Frawley and Garlands first 20 games. To say Fitpatrick had an ordinary debut - fair opinion - to make the comment made above - poor form.

Taking a pot shot at a 20 year old 200cm first gamer - well done champ !

Because that dumbschmidt blew his whistle and then decided he got it wrong - you could hear him say - the ball came free when he hit the ground so he bounced it. Schmidt doesnt need a whistle - he should have a little hammer and hit himself on the head making that very noticeable coconut sound every time he wants to make a decision.

What he should have done, what he shouldnt done - you dont pay free kicks because Garland was dumb - the rule is clear - incorrect disposal in a tackle warrants a free kick - he wasnt tackled - he was knocked off the kick - should not have paid the free - that simple.

Garland decision - it can only be incorrect disposal if you tackle - not if you knock your opponent - wrong friggin decision

Schmidt house

Love the Toddy ( and Barrass) "I dont respect talent, I only respect what you do with it "

kicking at goal.....ewwwwww

And if my memory serves me right didnt he also chop down Neneh Cherry's tree ?

Look, up in the air, its a bird, its a plane - no its Retrospective man. And ably supported by writing-off-20-year-olds-like-cook-the-same-way-so-many-were-bagging-watts-have-we-learned-nothing boy

maybe so but can you understand Daisy knocking back the big money to stay at the Pies - more premierships ( finals at least ) compared to years in the wilderness ? You will like this one Old Dee - the CFO of our group says " if you want loyalty - buy a dog"

I addressed this elsewhere - some will go for money and some wont - the biggest difference is that at my work, i am not looking to hold a premiership cup aloft and whilst work is hard - i dont fight in the trenches with my workmates like footballers do...these are emotional values that dont exist in business. I would take 4-500K and shift jobs tomorrow. I'm not sure a Jack Trengove would.

If my memory served me right he was offered big money from Adelaide ? Does anyone else recall that ? or am i making it up !

None us know but what you said about his knee, again who knows - but in the land of 1001 theories - if the knee is so bad then your 1002nd theory makes sense.

Yep - but my point is that this is not an indictment on the club - Ablett is a case in point. He pointedly gave other reasons for leaving but did not back away from saying that money was a large part of it. Thats how he ticks so be it. An offer to good to refuse. So it is indictment on the club that Scully's goes but how does that fit in with Trengove staying and extending early ?