Grapeviney

Really? Here's the truth according to Watts, just a few weeks ago: "Roosy's probably saved my career, to be honest."

Love how everyone ran onto the ground after Hassa's goal - I felt like doing that when Tyson kicked the sealer against them the other week.

There are some great footy pundits on here whose analysis and commentary I love to read, but I really don't understand the obsession some have with being - or seeming to be - dispassionate, calm and analytical in their comments, especially in the heat of a game. I find some of the posts in the game day thread hilarious for their levels of hysteria, but I understand it. As you are fond of reminding us, it's just footy; what's the big deal if you want a player banished to the moon for making a mistake one minute, and then all's forgiven next minute when they do something good. We're passionate supporters on a footy forum discussing sport, not writing about brain surgery in a peer-reviewed medical journal.

For $50 I'm happy to leave the thread here.

I'm not so fussed about the body language to be honest. i think it's just frustration, borne out of the fact that he's a supremely confident kid who last year was able to do it all, seemingly without effort, and is now learning that it doesn't always click, even if you are doing all the right things. Yes there are days when his attitude and body language stinks, but for the most part I think he's worked really hard this year and I expect that's what we'll get going forward as he matures.

Benched midway through the 2nd quarter after an emergency meeting of the Demonland tribunal. There's always a lot of crap posted in the game day thread but that was just plain annoying.

Stop with the nonsense - people are trying to follow the game here.

...AND WE'RE BACK>>>>> Season kicks off tomorrow night but it looks like I'm stuck with the SBS coverage of just one match per week. Have spent half my day trying to work out the Optus subscription, only to be told I have 2 options - watch it via an interrupted / lagging stream on TV, or watch it on my phone (yeh, cos watching sport on a tiny screen is just awesome..) My phone's with Optus, so I'm eligible for it, but my internet service is with Telstra, and it's unreliable and prone to hiccups. Was prepared to switch to Optus internet, but apparently they can't offer a reliable connection - even via satellite - because I live in an apartment! Go figure. Anyone else having similar issues? Anyway, here's this week's line-up, with SBS broadcasting Hull v Leicester @ 9pm on Saturday night. Saturday Hull v Leicester Burnley v Swansea Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Everton v Tottenham Middlesborough v Stoke Southampton v Watford Man City v Sunderland Sunday Bournemouth v Man U Arsenal v Liverpool Monday Chelsea v West Ham Edit: Here's a tip Optus - don't buy the f...ing rights if you can't offer a quality product..

Bump. I've just moved this thread over from the General board, which doesn't get a lot of traffic. If you or your friends / family are interested, let them know about this great initiative. Good luck Ruby Dees!

Aside from the same IP address, he joined 15 minutes after 'braysure' was banned and had the word 'troll' in his registered email - how dumb can you be?

Hi 'braysure'... Bye 'braysure'.

I'm still at the 'G and the umps have just paid another free kick to Hawthorn!

Can't stand Vickery. The only time his name should ever be mentioned on Demonland is in the Jack Viney Made Me Cry thread.

Nah. The MFC has to come first, second and third on the priority list. End of story. If that means giving players a taste of VFL finals, so be it, but if it means going in for early surgeries to be ready for day 1 of pre-season, that's what should happen.

Buyers / collectors often loan their stuff back to museums and displays, so some of this gear may well end up back at the Sports Museum at the 'G or similar. And given the length and success of his involvement in the game, this would be just a fraction of all his memorabilia - I suspect the club already has a decent collection of its own.

Agree SD, still one of the best footy books ever written, a compilation of articles and columns from a very gifted writer, Garrie Hutchinson, who was kind of the Martin Flanagan of the 70's and 80's. There's also a good piece in there about Robbie and how he used to run opponents in circles on the MCG wing. Just on that Fitzroy piece, I think one of the saddest footy stories I've read was this account of Vinny Catoggio's 1973 Grand Final, written by Brent Croswell, another talented writer.

Aside from the '87 and '94 finals series already mentioned, I'd have to say our comeback win against Essendon at Windy Hill in 1990. We were 34 points down midway through the final quarter and booted 7 goals in 15 minutes to win by 8 points. Swooper moved Garry Lyon into the centre, Darren Bennett booted four last-quarter goals including a couple from about 60 metres out, and Todd Viney nearly killed Alan Ezard with a bone-jarring tackle that was the best I've ever seen (until Jack's dumping of Mav Weller last year).

Titus in good form: Hawthorn finally have a side capable of winning a premiership. "Whether they get there this year or not, Hawthorn are on the right track and it's good to see another team challenge for the ultimate prize."

Worked his backside off all night and finished with 20 disposals 12 marks 5 tackles 9 score involvements 4 goals 2 behinds - couldn't ask for a more well-rounded game from a CHF.

I think most of us look at Vickery and cringe. Can't believe his name keeps popping up...

OMG! A politician told a lie during an election! The Mediscare lie only worked because of a lie told during the 2013 election - the one about there being 'no cuts to Medicare, no changes to pensions' etc. Abbott's broken promise / lie made Labor's claim plausible. And yes - Abbott came to power on the back of Gillard's 2010 lie that 'there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead'. etc and etc

Took the game on at every opportunity, regularly broke the lines and gained a stack of metres-gained from run alone, and topped it off with a beautiful dash through the middle to drill one from 40. Exciting to watch and improving every game.

This pre-game 'diversity round' performance is an abomination.

Yeh, thank god the right / conservatives don't engage in that kind of propaganda.

Given the kerfuffle over what happened on radio on QB, surely you mean Collingwood when they're drown and out..