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Surely to goodness she doesn't move from the forward line next year. He is a natural forward. Let's hope his time down back has helped him round out his game.

Ain't gonna happen

Exactly. Stays on the park too, hasn't missed a game for four year through injury i don't think.

In some ways I don't mind the heavy in Sydney. You can draw a line through a lot of horses. And some really like the going. Melbourne tracks drain better and never get as heavy, meaning form in wet is much more variable. Hate getting rolled by a horse on say a soft 5 that has no wet form. Agree avilius is overs Macca. Likes heavy and should sit a bit closer I reckon. Has the ratings to win and the only danger i reckon is tbe kiwi horse danz something.

My best is an old best bet fav. Randwick Race 7 no 2 avilius. On face value a bit dour last start but samadoubt had t h e advantage of a leaders bias. At the weights and in the heavy I'm tipping it will bounce back.

What a brutal day at caulfield. Som many chances in each race. Tough at Randwick too. Some cracking races. History suggests Begood Toya Mother a huge chance as horses down in the weight historically do well in the Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes day. He is down a wopping 7kgs on his last run. I've actually done my form, early for me. Not quite sure of my best yes. Will post it tonight

Can't see how I proved your point. Strange point in any case. Frawley had hit his ceiling already. Was good at the dees and stayed at that level. As an indication of his ability at the dees (and how highly hawks rated him as measured by contract) when hw left as a FA we were given pick 3 compensation.

Arguably a better footy brain and kick than Frosty? I can;t imagine anyone arguing with that proposition.

Comparisons between Howe and Frost are ridiculous. I like Frosty but he is not half the player Howe is. One has game sense, is a natural defender and a real weapon with his marking. And it aint Frosty

The low ball comment no doubt came from his manager, mcconville. Standard manager trick to pout some bultish rumor out via a sympathetic news gossip and seed a couple of footy forums. Same trick Jone's manager used. Works a treat when gullible football forum posters repeat it like it is fact Might have misread the room on this one methinks.

Elite kicking skills are soooooo overrated.

Source?

This pure angst gold. You have out done yourself this time on the bag everything dees related scale TGR. Brilliant stuff. To parlay a barley formed rumour about Clarkson looking at properties in Perth into an opportunity to bag the dees is next level wrist slashing genius. I am seriously impressed. The other negative nellies on this site should bow before your angsty greatness.

So you're saying we should consider taking the punt on Harley....

Richmond got rance with a priority pick. I had completely forgotten that. Good get.

How about Masten on one wing and ANB on the other? You'd love it dazzler

I reckon he is pretty good kick actually. His issue is that so often he holds the ball up and does not release straight away

Agree that he us exactly the sort of player we need. Close to the best kick in the league and a beautiful mover. Silk. But surely getting Tomlinson won't impact our chances of getting Whitfield. Won't cost us a draft pick and not too much salary space.

Perhaps a compensation pick like they give out for free agents. After all we did the AFL a big favor.

Just the alice game is perfect. Make it against Freo every year. More winnable and less support than crows.

Getting Tomlinson and Elliot as free agents and so not having to give up any picks would be massive. Both are in the right age range too. And both have finals experience.

Where this from dazzler?

Gives me the opportunity to have the last word then (so i'll make it count). Firstly, it is a given that it is my opinion that that selecting Tyson as part of that deal was a mistake, not a fact. It would get tiresome if every time someone posted a comment on DL they prefaced with it 'in my opinion'. Secondly YOUR opinion is that i am factually incorrect to say 'more in the type of player he is - a contested, inside player with average foot skills. A type we have a surfeit of. We needed silk and we got whatever the opposite is' You go on to to say your opinion is based not on hindsight but on the facts at the time the decisions were made and that the criticism of Roos based on that comment are unfounded. Well i'm sorry, but in MY opinion you are wrong and the facts do not support your argument. In 2013, when Roos decided to split pick 2 and give up the opportunity to get Kelly, Billings or the Bont (a decision i stress that i supported at the time and in the following years) we had the following players on our list who could be fairly described as a contested, inside player with average foot skills. Nathan Jones Jimmy Toumpas Jack Grimes Jack Viney Jack Trengove Jordie McKenzie Luke Tapscott Matt Jones To that list Roos decided to add two more contested, inside players with average foot skills: Dom Tyson Viv Michie That's 10 contested, inside player with average foot skills. We can argue about the word surfeit but in my opinion that is too many and created a list imbalance that persists to this day (and i fully agree that Goodwin has done nothing to address this issue. Nor did Roos for that matter, doubling down in the following draft and trading periods). This is why so desperately need a player like Brad Hill now. In that draft Roos (well his recruiting team) also added: Bernie Vince (great foot skills, but an inside player and slow) Jayden Hunt (an outside player, with speed but poor foot skills) Jay Kennedy Harris (an outside player with average foot skills) Christian Salem (an inside player, with elite foot skills but slow) Looking at the list we started 2014 with (thanks Demonwiki - what a magnificent website, a treasure) - the first year of the Roos era- we only had the following three players i would describe as 'silk' ie outside players, who can cover ground with elite foot skills (i don't count Hogan in this category): Jack Watts Dom Barry (5 games) James Strauss (0 games) And to top that off in terms of elite kicks you could only add Shannon Brynes, Salem and Jetta. Meaning on list of 52 players we only had 6 elite kick and only two of them played more than 6 games. The other relevant issue about the decision to not go to the draft with pick 2 was that you rightly say the deal also involved us giving up pick 20. We could have used both picks 2 and 20 to address our lack of silk. Two could have got us Kelly. And pick 20 could have got us Jarmen Impey (who went at pick 21).

You make some good points LH. As i said i supported the decision to split pick two at the time and for several years afterwards. I'm not critical of the decision - as i said i saw the logic to bring in a couple of quality players given where we were at. But i am also firmly of the view that with the benefit of hindsight it was the wrong call. You're right about the Bont - in hindsight we should have drafted him (though i think Kelly will end his career the equal of Bont). However, i wish you would stop misrepresenting my views. I did not say - and have not said - the recruiting under Roos was poor, so i i completely refute your claims that i am pushing a narrative that it was. In the post you quoted i agreed with the view that under Roos recruiting was 'not disastrous, but far from amazing'. Again, hardly a severe criticism of Roos. At the risk of misrepresenting your views you appear very sensitive about any criticisms of Roos, even measured non controversial criticism.

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