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He missed weed in exactly the same way after that. Cost us a certain goal (he hits the handpass and weed kicks an easy goal from the goal square). It went straight up the other end for a goal. Not long after he missed an easy target inside 50 by foot, which is par for the course for us, But the problem was that he turned it over in tbe corridor and it got swept down tbe other end. Fortunately not for a goal i don't think. So, yes as one of the commentators noted he was given a chance to redeem his errors. And all credit to him that he took that chance. There was another bad mistake that seemed to escape the commentators attention and demonland's as well. On that last kick by hannan he had hunt and brayshaw on over the top, with hunt being completely in the clear. Should have handball it to him and hunt would have run into an open goal.

That win is a metaphor for this year in some ways, particularly in terms of supporters not understanding the impact of injury. We were out on our feet with 2 players in Hore and Petty out for all of the second half and TMac out from halfway through the third. This interview with Hunt is interesting in terms of understanding the impact of not being able to rotate players, both physically but also in terms of having to move players around the ground to get a chop out (something Goody noted in his presser eg having to move Lewis off Murphy). He notes he had to play wing for that last quarter and Jones didn't come off for the second half, despite playing high half back which Hunty says is tough position. https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-07-07/hunt-enjoys-final-quarter-heroics But hey what would he know

I'm with you Nasher. Loved it. Thanks to kayo i watched the game from about 3:45 as i was away. Totally stoked to win. I knew though that when i looked at Demonland the vibe would be generally negative. I was right. We were cooked and running up and done on the spot. We could only make 9 rotations in the last. Nine. And our ruck man was completely gassed. Loved his effort but big Preussy is slow and not fit enough to ruck solo all day. Loved the composure to get a shot on goal after falling behind and love that Hunt slotted it after making 3 critical errors in the preceding 15 minutes. My daughter asked if i thought he would kick it and i said no. Loved the fact he did. A win is a win. Our kicking remains a huge issue (hello to those posters who said Friiter covered the loss of Watts in terms of kicking skills) and out injury curse is real. But we won. And i for one will take that.

Sure, why not lever. Potential AA player recruited to help us win a flag. We also didn't have Hogan for the last third of the season. In terms of importance not a million mikes away from say tigers losing rance and reiwoldt (not saying either are as good).. We did make the prelim.

Then why is Collingwood being beaten by inferior teams? Should their magical game plan not protect them from the impact of injuries?

Good clubs don't go into crisis mode.

What has happened to the Pies? Of that's right a third of their best 22 are out with injury. But that's no excuse......

Don't worry Frankie. We'll smash them. Take it to the bank

Exactly what we need. Add both Hill brothers and Jack Martin and we're away. And before anyone points out how impossible that is i'll concede that i have no idea (or interest in) about trade scenarios. But they are the players we need.

Unfortunately it has been worse than ever this year. I have no idea about what the boards KPIs are for pert and so no real sense of how he is travelling as CEO. Except in regard to communication. Communication and supporter engagement is critical for teams long terms success and viability. i would argue it is never more critical than when a team i struggling. And responsibility for communication falls squarely at the feet of the CEO. Really it is beyond ridiculous that the Pert could publicly say we are aiming for 70, 000 members (which is fine in of itself) and then allow our communication to be so woeful. I mean talk about a disconnect. I have been banging on about this for years now. Time for me to put my money where my mouth is. I will go to the next AGM and ask why our communication has been so poor and what they plan to do about it.

Are you serious? Of course Misso plays a role in supporting the rehabilitation of players (along with the medical team) but it is beyond silly to blame him for the huge number of sessions missed by the list as whole given the fact that so many players had post season surgeries (about 40% of the list) and injuries. Sheesh.

Hunt on the extended bench is about right. Giving him a message. I expect him to play but needs to step up. Not convinced bout him up forward and he drifts in an out of the game. Perhaps plonk him on the wing and tell him to run both ways. Same goes for Hibberd in terms of giving him a message. Another who needs to go up a few levels.

Dropped. Pretty stiff i reckon given we really need his pace.

Really?

With all due respect Saty your credibility on this particular issue is not high.

Would have worked better as a sledge if you knew how to use the quote function

No its not. For reasons outlined previously.

Thanks for the reply. Nice for to you make it clear that you don't go nuance or grey, just black and white. But you needn't have worried. I knew that already.

Agree. Lose this week and the club, and goody in particular, will get the blow torch treatment. And deservedly so. In some ways our terrible tackle numbers and pressure last game - and the fact they have highlighted by the media - will help us this week. Can't see us not bringing the heat this week

I guess if you see things in simple black and white terms then you might be right. But I prefer a more holistic, nuanced perspective that sees how a range of factors are interconnected. Don't feel you need to reply.

But dazzler attitude is never in isolation to issues such as preparation and the impact of injury. We have had shocking run with both poor preseasons and injuries and in addition to the obvious impact of fitness these issues also have a psychological impact. As Grapveiney pointed out on last nights podcast it is much harder to remain in the right head space week in, week out when we started well behind the 8 ball, have never caught up and the season has disappeared before the players eyes. It's hard enough to keep a group motivated week in week when finals are in play - just look at the Pies who are having truth sessions because their intensity has fallen off a cliff. But it is so much harder to keep them focused, switched on and motivated week in week out when finals are of the table. But no less important of course - and perhaps even more important. And don't get me wrong i'm not making excuses - the point you make about the woeful tackling numbers is spot on. And not good enough from our leaders. I've said this before but one reason i had so much respect for the late great Robbie Flower was that when we struggled his effort never, ever dropped and often even seemed to go up a level.. So as i say i'm not making excuses for them but the reality is finding intrinsic motivation to perform and go hard every game and every contest is hard in the sort of season we are having. This will be Goody biggest challenge for the rest of the year and will test his motivational and man management skills more than say last year when were riding a wave in the last third of the season I gather from your posts you are still playing footy. Surely you have experience of the connection between physical preparation and mental performance on a team a whole.

Oh please we made the preliminary final for pete's sake. With a team missing Lever, nominally our best defender. It wasn't a fluke. We were the highest scoring team and from round 12 the best defensive unit in the AFL. And that's without Lever. We were doing plenty right. Look at the pies and west coast this year. Both are nowhere near as effective. Maybe their much vaunted chip kick game plan has already had its day.

And add to that the fact that in all sports, all sports poor technique is exposed by fatigue. From darts to football and everything in between poor technique is made worse under pressure and fatigue. And we 80% of our players have terrible technique. So it stands to reason that we make more mistakes than say last year when the team as whole is nowhere near as fit.

My head is seriously going to explode Our situations are not comparable

Sorry, it's not. I went to the preliminary. It was hot, we were coming off two intense games, had to travel.accross the country and we were totally cooked half way through the first. West coast, who went on to win the premiership had a weeks rest and played at home. Way too much has been made of that lost. Exactly as snoop dog says people have bagged us for following others plans. We have ours. Now it might not be the right one, but this is not the year to be definitive about that. And last year's prelim is one game. We beat the same team (albeit missing Kennedy) 3 weeks earlier.