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But Rusty that is exactly what the club did - or didn't do in terms airing any dirty laundry. I did not hear one bad word from the club about Frosty - they played it wit the deadest of dead bats. They handled it all expertly. Which is big reason we ave done pretty well with the trade. On airing any dirty laundry Go The Biff wrote this earlier: 'Interesting. A relative of mine - Demon fan - met him out & about a few weeks ago and was surprised at how readily he mouthed off about the club to a perfect stranger.'

Crazy isn't it. Perhaps the least understood key factor in any team (or organisation for that matter) success is the strength of the board and the how effective its governance is. It is one reason that i am very confident he dees will bounce back. We are in a good space in terms of our board, governance and executive.

Bingo. 100% disagree that we have not done well in this deal. it is clear we wanted him out. Just as we wanted Watts out. I was dead against that deal but acknowledged that i didn't have all the information as to what the real reasons were for that decision. I don't rate frost very highly, certainly nowhere near Watts, though i like him a player and have nothing against him. Yes he made top 10 in the bluey, but please he only juts made the top 10 and how could he fail not to to given he played very game in season where we finished 17th, were ravaged by injury (particularly down back) and almost every player on the list played a game. But in any case I'm guessing (and only guessing) the reason for wanting him out is related to culture more than ability. Yes i'm partially basing that on isolated recent comments in this thread (that i have no reason to doubt given i trust the posters based on their history) but the club has made it abundantly clear it had no intention of keeping him. He was always 100% Maxy gawn. In that context we have done well to get some value out of the deal. You only have to look at the situation with Jenkins and the crows to see what can happen when it is clear a player in on the outer. It's a bit different because Jenkins has made it clear he wants out and the relationship seems to have completely broken down. But it is analogous in so far as in both circumstances the club want both players out the door. No one would suggest Frost is better, more valuable player than Jenkins, yet i guarantee we will get more from the respective trades than the crows will. For Pete's sake the crows will have to pay some of his salary to get him out the door.

Absolutely. Me too. Would you broadcast that frustration with complete strangers? If true a very dumb thing to do on Frost's part.

Your posting style has an eerie similarity to Donald Trump's tweeting style. And the similarities don't end there......

Bit of frost ball might help our cause

That is a grammatical nightmare

Snap. We were posting much the same thing at the same time.

It's sort of a moot point. I reckon lots of teams would have a similar spread of ability. The tigers, gws and pies have more true a graders. And that is something we have lacked for decades to be honest. But if everything aligns we will have the following undisputed a graders by mid season next year: maxy, Oliver, Brayshaw, May, Lever and trac with harmes, tmac and Salem pushing for b+ and fritter not too far behind.

Come on DW, get with the program. From a Victorian club

Ha ha ha i missed that.

You missed basil rat

That is a big difference! But how do you rule people in?

Yolo. Please don't go. Don't leave me hanging! Rule our everyone mentioned in this thread? I think not. Are you really gnf?

And kicks goals against us. So that might rule the rat out unfortunately. Update on clues: A key forward (correct to assume a big?) Has a current contract Has a good record against the dees Victorian club But not pies And not membrey or Bruce A club who needs to shed some players or $$ this trade period Would be a surprise Has been mentioned on this thread!

I'm not sure that is why he ewas recruited. My sense is that ideally he play as a forward - and pinch hitting to give Maxy a chop out. He does not look like he is going to be a forward option. If it was to play at casey for a few years and be back up for maxy,well sure that isn't a failure. But i'm pretty sure all concerned had grander plans than that.

I don't think the clues rule the big fella out. Could our pick 3 come into play somehow? The cats did mention they would be keen to get up the draft order. If we got the big rat and their first round pick (14?) and maybe a 3rd rounder (which we could use for Butler) that might work? This game is fun.

Not quite sure what you mean by being a revenue cost centre.

Surely if we are targeting a Cat it is more likely to be Ratugolea. Young. We could offer a good contract with a few years on it. A big presence up forward but crucially can go into the ruck. A tacit admission the Preuss experiment has failed (and maybe acknowledgment that weeds is fair way off?)? Hawkins is too one dimensional and doesn't provide any chop out for Maxy.

I'm not sure about May being injury prone. Ha no issues until coming to the dees and perhpas struggling with the increased running load. Hopefully yhat's not an issue next year. And granted Lever has had 2 ACLs (one as a junior) but i'm not convinced he is injury prone as such.

I get all that. Let's agree to disagree on his ability. But I thought I made it clear that I'm not relying on Joel Smith for us to have a good 2020. As I previously noted even if he never plays seniors, for whatever reason, i am still confident we will make finals in 2020. If I prove to be correct about Smith and he does play a role it will be icing on the cake. Not the cake.

Agree. His assessment of our list is not a million miles away. I'd have Hibberd at C+ and Harmes and Trac at B- But surely we expect both Lever and may to elevate to A graders - and Trac for that matter.

Nor i. But if we do as you say it will be late you'd think. it is an untenable situation for Jenkins and the Crows and really he will have to go. The Crows will become increasingly worried they won't be able to trade him so the later in the trade period it goes the more of his salary they might be willing to pay.

Freudian slip?

To do what?