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Not underestimating Jesse’s value, but IIRC we did win more big games without him than with him.

Serious question - are there actually AFL rules that state numbers must be single or double digits only? (If not, I am 100% certain that some would be created on the run)

WERRIDEE - every successful team has depth, as most other than Richmond 2017 have injuries during the season. Those with depth survive; those without, whither.

In addition to your observations, Salems Lot, we are approaching the stage where oppositions will need to adapt to us as much as we have had to do to them in the past. Exciting times for us.

Jesse did not kick a lot of goals when it mattered most. Preuss and / or Max will quite likely spend quite a bit of time up forward when a tall marking option is needed. They would both be difficult match ups. The recruiting department obviously saw the writing on the wall for Jesse either this year or next, and felt that despite his undoubted talent his absence could be covered, as it was in the vital last 4 victories of the year, and remembering that was without the added tall Preuss to share Max's ruck load and releasing him forward..

Garbo Do you really think that May would hang around another year?

It will be interesting to see who kicks goals in big pressure games, which is when Jesse seemed to struggle most.

Only 408 pages ? Given his refusal to commit which disrupts forward planning this is the best outcome although he will be missed when he does get on the field. The nett restructuring is a win for us.

Maybe he has, or maybe he hasn't ... doesn't need to tell the world anything at this stage anyway. Maybe it is not his rôle

Frankly if Jesse really wants to go to that rabble and play under their pathetic coach, good luck to him. Hope he gets really frustrated. Because they cant get him if he doesn't agree to go to them. It ain't the draft.

"I smell a rat" Mmmm. The rat of whom I am thinking has just jumped a second ship and is now at Hawthorn, perhaps hoping to fullPhil his perceived destiny. Will look the part in the pees and poos.

Hindsight is just so cool. Clearly our professional recruiting staff saw something in him that some posters here did not. FWIW the attached highlights package looked as if he could get the ball, dispose of it cleanly and effectively, and lay a tackle. Still, what do we know? Good luck in whatever endeavours you pursue, and thanks for coming to the Demons even though it didn't end up as all of us would have hoped.

Thanks, Col. How is Freo going? What was it really like to play under Ross? That bad? But back on trac - he has absolutely enormous talent and potential, and I feel this generation of Demons (unlike the aforementioned) have the structure and the leadership on and off the field to help him (yes help him, needs to put in and dedicate himself) to reach the elite level. Go Tracc! Show us all, and show the sceptics.

Does anyone actually know what were his problems through 2018? Is it related to the back issues that had him miss most (if not all) of his debut season? If yes, has he recovered from / learned to manage these? Is it above the shoulders? Much of what differentiates good from very good from champion sportsmen often is. Has anyone heard (from reliable sources or from the horse's mouth) how he is approaching the off season / preseason? Positively? Working on his deficiencies which to my untrained eye seem to be both disposal and decision making / planning? Thanks for any informed input. To my mind his best is very good, ie B grade.

I wanted it to go further - NO marks paid to the defensive team after a kick in from the goal rectangle (pedantic me can't callout a square because it isn't and never has been) until the ball clears the defensive 50. This would stop these dinky little time wasting chips and back and forth across the ground.

With May now being touted as happy to go anywhere in Victoria, it is time for our team to lay down the final ultimatum to Freo - right now, give us two first rounder, and Brayshaw of Cerra, or GOGF right now. Deal or no deal. Maybe we should get President Trump to do our negotiating ??

Wasn't L Franklin's Sideney deal for 8 years?

How about 6, 7, Brayshaw and Cerra? OK, I will be charitable and say 3 of 4.

Maybe he has - we are pretty good at keeping cards close to the chest nowadays, most of the time.

Somewhere between April and June?

Which would put paid to the wanna go home reasoning. Similarities with Mitch ? who desperately wanted Perththen was lured my Melbourne $$$, broke his foot and headed off to another suitor.

Once this is settled one way or another we can have a 350 page post mortem thread!

How about with Hogan at FB CHB?

Frankly after the many ways they have stuffed up this trade period, Freo have zero, or negative, credibility They would probably be better trading Lyon for Neeld. And that is how bad they have proven themselves.