old dee

Pity we don't have another dozen to match him.

When we have so many games in a reduced time period why would you risk him against the Crows?

Also explains why we get so few FTA games. We really are the perfect example of a team to fill in the numbers. Every non MFC supporter knows we are no danger to there finals ambitions.

Short break did not seem to worry port last night.

While I don’t disagree with your basic premise Pates are you sure the playing group has the ability. For most of the last four years we have been able to match it with the bottom half of competition but are sadly lacking against the better sides. While I have zero confidence in our FD I also wonder about our list being as good as we assume. perhaps we are just a bottom six side coached by average talents.

Does it matter who we pick, the problems are deeper than 2 or 3 player changes.

It's time swyl.

For once I reckon we have scored, traded out our 2020 picks for those guys who are looking good for no early slot in a lottery.

The north swap looks better every week.

Just finished watching the game. Gus was let down by 4 terrible kicks if two came off there was no hawthorn player around and two goals would have been added to the score line. Has to get his kicking going.

Perhaps we should leave Melbourne permantly WJ?

What the hell we would we know, collectively we have 50000 sets of eyes and 25000 brains!

With the number of games we have to play in the next few weeks with five day breaks etc. I would not be surprised to see a couple rested.

Looks like they played well yesterday have not seen a frame yet, yesterday was not a good day here. Recorded it so will watch at some point today. Gee my idea of resting Kossie was a good one. Think I will go off the bed now!

What do you mean at times.

So is it safe to assume the norm has returned?

How come 4 years we were both crap and now the Lions are GF chances and we are still cr-p?

I will take your word for it. I could handle being an average player who got paid $ millions. I would sleep well ever night.

He has some ways to go to catch up on the dollar front RG.

What they have kicked 5 hardtack?

Not if you have the first few picks sue. But you are correct if we give north pick 1 the MFC will be up to its eyes in crap and be looking for several FD positions to fill and potentially a new board.

Ok the Hawks rate and we don't just look our game times and how often we figure on FTA.

Your last line is what I am on about. A significant number of our best 22 have poor delivery. They don't miss kick every now and then they do it week after week. Even last year we had a lot of forward entries that result in no score because of poor delivery which resulted in turnovers and scores by the the other team.

We are taking about a comparison between a multi GF winning coach and a third rater. Hawthorn sell papers the Deed don't it's that simple. Damo.

So much of what fans talk ( including me) is based on over rating the players in the team we follow. We over rate players who get the ball a lot but under rated the cost of poor delivery resulting in turn overs and games lost. If majority of the time you miss kick that results in a turn over you are IMO a poor player. Poor players don't win games.