P-man

haha..best laugh I've had on here in a while. So true.

My guess is because it has bugger all to do with football, and in all honesty is a drastic overreaction on your part when Jonesy's reaction is shared with the majority of the western world. Take the moral high ground in your own quiet time and place.

Must win? Respectable margin? Greater tackling pressure? Winning contested possessions? Anyone who says "winning quarters" will be banned from this thread.

I found it curious that in his interview on the club website he was asked about his game and he spoke about "giving it a real crack", almost as though this was a novel thing for him to do. His game has been well overstated, at least from where I was sitting in the stands. Yes he put in a greater effort than anyone else, but that's not hard when your competition is f-all. He was okay. Still has a look of a deer in headlights far too often, which seems to result in a reluctance for his teammates to give him the ball when he's the clear option. If this game acts as his firestarter then happy days. Til then he has a long way to go. One thing that was noticeable in the flesh is he has definitely added some size to his frame. Hopefully with that comes confidence in his ability.

Honestly I'd say we're more embarassing than Port. If we played like that tonight against a GC side with Ablett leading them, we'd have suffered the same fate as Port. We just got lucky. Primus was wrong. WE are the laughing stock of the AFL. The more I think about this [censored] the angrier I get so I'm off to bed.

Bugger it. The players and coach couldn't be arsed, why should I waste time and effort coming up with 6 players worth votes.

"Bad night" feels like understatement of the year mate.

No, he shouldn't. But a performance like tonight requires close scrutiny. Closer than he's been subject to up til now.

I was at Subiaco tonight and honestly I couldn't even watch for portions of the game. At times it was laughable. Being the sole MFC supporter in my surrounds, I even got a "she'll be right" pat on the back from a Weagles fan. haha..a new low. It was a deplorable effort tonight. The worst I've seen in the flesh and possibly the worst I've seen, period. There is something systematically wrong with our football club and I'm not sure how we're going to dig ourselves out of it. All this list building and this is what it has amounted to? I've held faith with Bailey but tonight, I've become a doubter. Big time. I'll be there next week though, cheering the boys on and just hoping they start to give a [censored].

Is your dad also familiar with the expression, "don't judge a book by its cover"?

I was openly cheering for them in that last quarter. ..and thank god it wasn't us. Poort will never live this one down.

I'll laugh harder if their golden boy Hurley ends up going to GWS as is the latest from the rumour mill. All their "we got Hurley, you got Watts" [censored] will come home to roost a little earlier than anticipated.

C'mon lads and ladies. This thread could have at least waited til after we play Wet Toast. If we get humped by them, bring out the doom and gloom forecasts. Until that stage let's just see what kind of effort we come up with..

I voted "No". Just thought I'd share that with you all.

The response I got in relation to my email objecting to the flag, for those interested: Hi Simon, Thanks for taking the time to write to us, and sorry that it’s taken me a few days to respond to you. We have received quite a bit of feedback about the ‘Grand Old Flag’, and it seems there are some supporters who have responded to its introduction differently to the way that we have intended. I would like to take the opportunity to explain the background behind the introduction of the ‘Grand Old Flag’ at our home games. As a club we are trying to create experiences for our members and supporters at all of our home games that reflect our status as the home club of the MCG. The ‘Grand Old Flag’ is referred to so prominently in our theme song that the idea of having a physical club flag at all of our home games seemed like a logical introduction. The raising of the flag is not intended to be a sign of arrogance nor an acceptance of mediocrity. Rather it is a ritual intended to emphasise our sense of place at the MCG and to celebrate our past players, who we invite to take part in its raising. Based on the feedback that we have received from you and some other supporters, we acknowledge that the way that we use the flag may need some refinement so that when it flies at the MCG, all of our members and supporters are proud of this important Melbourne Football Club symbol. Once again, thanks for your feedback. Regards Martin Cox | Fan Development Manager

Sin Bin could be dangerous coming off the bench.. Their HF line is overrated I think. Twitter in particular.

I'm amazed that one of the coaches didn't recognise Bail's input at all. I'm hoping it was McKenna.

Bailey's post-match was quite insightful actually. He was directly questioned on the supposed Melbourne gameplan of forcing turnovers in our back half rather than applying the forward press, which he dismissed (with a hint of contempt) saying that the aim is always to keep the ball in the f50. Re Jamar, if he can improve his kicking from set shots he'll be a real asset in the interim up forward with his size and ability to take a contested grab.

Granted they've had a tough run to start, but they have Richmond this week. No excuses.

Let's hope so. Right now a strong gust of wind would have him worried.

Just watched their game against Freo and am confident the 4 year hoodoo will be lifted this year with a strong win over the blue and whites. The body language of their players tells the story. They appear to have lost their cohesion and confidence as a team, with Harvey's public comments questioning the endeavour of younger players having a visible impact. Unless Scott can inspire a remarkable turnaround, they are ripe for the picking. West Coast might be another matter. Looked very solid for 3 quarters against the supposed premiership contenders.

Really? Apologies for questioning a vote but I thought he was pretty dreadful today.

6. Trengove 5. Moloney 4. Bail 3. Sylvia 2. Jurrah 1. Jones

This second half has been absolutely appalling.

Nowhere to be seen - B Green.