TheoX

As soon as Luenberger comes back he'll turn to rubbish again, and if they play him as 1st ruck, Leuenberger asks for a trade.

He's played a few games so not a debut but he looks good today.

Ah stand corrected, first game for the year perhaps.

Debuting today, anyone watch? 23 disposals 6 tackles so far...

I'm just completely sold on Brayshaw.

IMO Brayshaw is better inside than Petracca - which transfers better to the AFL game.

I think it's been said that Brayshaw has a very high uncontested possession % (for a supposed inside mid), which doesn't transfer to AFL very well

did he still have a year to go on his contract?

Think he only had a 2 year deal with brissie.

There was an article recently that showed the players we would likely have got if not for GWS: We had O'Meara and Cameron FFS.

We need GWS style draft concessions, not a PP.

Tapscott is absolutely useless and shouldn't play again before being de-listed.

Absolutely [censored] up. Lets instruct our players to deliberately smash opposition heads in when trying to spoil hey.

Wouldn't be crying over missing Stringer

any chance of a goal instead of fricken points???

Useless Tapscott

CS wasted talent and given far too many chances. B - as a AFL career.

Number 3 pick totally wasted.

He was with us for what? 9 years. Lucas Cook was a totally wasted pick.

At his best for a couple of seasons - he was a real gun - goals from outside the 50 on the run - strong marks etc. Sad finish.

Him and Brock McLean in the same draft - McLean fantastic in the win over the Saints in the final in 2006 (last final win when Dees finished as top Victorian club) - but then the sour grapes bit on On the Couch which started the tanking enquiry when everyone knew just about everyone had done it.

Brock was touted as a future MFC captain.

So sad that Sylvia and Mclean's output for the Dees wasn't what it could have been.

It was still one of our better drafts

Sydney don't want anything earlier than a late first round pick because they'll be burning it on their guaranteed Academy selection, a player which (if not for the draft concessions given to Sydney) would otherwise go around pick 5. They're getting away with murder on that one, not dissimilar to if we manage to land Stretch with a third rounder.

If they trade for an early pick they wouldn't have to use it on an academy selection, it would just be their first regular pick surely, like with father-son.

I thought reading the title that Wayne Campbell must've made a public apology for the [censored] the umps dished up to us yesterday.

Sick of having to beat the opposition as well as the umpires

I'll be expecting a public apology from Wayne Campbell

What year did we smash the Swans by 70? 2010 I think.

And I'd argue that is also about luck (ie was that year a good draft).

We have had the misfortune of having high picks in poor drafts. Combined with all the other arguments about development and poor drafting from pick 15 to 30 of course, but we haven't had luck at the pointy ends.

Yeah agree, the Hawks had heaps of early picks and blew some too on the likes of Dowler, Thorp and Ellis (though he was great in the 2008 flag)

Tanking in the AFL is fools gold and we are the perfect example of this.

Its not like basketball where 1 player on a court of 5 can make a huge difference, and with the draft age being a 1 year less or greater on most top end picks its even more of a lottery on how they will develop, which is why you get so may players from lower in the draft or rookies who turn out to be superstars as opposed to the NBA.

I couldn't care less whether we pick at 1,2 or 3 or 7,8 or 9. It seems to me it really doesn't make that much of a difference, unless you have multiple picks in that top 10.

So if clubs want to tank to get picks, good luck to them.

The Hawks and Pies tanked for priority picks, and won flags for their trouble. Difference is they picked players like Buddy, Roughy, Thomas and Pendles.

Is this an admission of Tanking?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-may-trade-their-top-pick-20140718-zuobl.html

6 games till EOS and only 1 game (+%) behind BL and us and Saints are talking of trading their #1 pick!!!! To add to this they are going to request a PP.

Sinking to the bottom is a deliberate, much advertised strategy to re-build. The gaul to request a PP and the hubris around having the #1 pick are just shocking. Such a strategy smacks of rorting the system.

Imagine the Saints asking for a PP after playing in 3 GF's in the last 5 years and voting that we don't get one last year.

Good to see Blease get a game

Treloar is a weird fella. I'm really not sure about him.

He's kinda funny-lookin' too

Great news on Mcdonald, meh on Barry though he's basically shown zilch.