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We need better outside users so id go for NDS

Yeah, surprised at those numbers hardly noticed him. No doubt a quality player though

Wasn't very good today against GWS

It's such a shame how threads on Demonland get continuously derailed by the same group of childish in fighters trying to big note themselves at the expense of any cold hard facts or logic.

Rockliff for Garland and Dunn?

Leadership group then out of favour very quickly , what's the thinking behind it?

I'm shocked Gawn is not streets ahead, interesting voting system to say the least.

I see him in the midfield rotation, strong and smart.

I said he is the sort of player we need, not him specifically, but always thought he was more talented than Spencer and yes he did have a lot of injuries and is still quite young. Some talls develop later

Good luck Fitzy, it's funny Coz he is exactly the sort of player we need. Relief Ruckman /forward

Why is it that our players seem to get so tired? Does Cripps get tired? Does Isaac Heeny or Callum Mills get tired? Bontempelli?

What's happened to Viney? His last few games have been pretty ordinary

Carried on where we left off last week. Pathetic efforts to tackle and not prepared to run hard. really disappointing end to the season, you'd think they'd want it more.

Ha ha , so you won't be watching the game Ox ? lol Also posting about the game shows you do care ??

Selwood is out

Perhaps our strategy is to get really good support players and develop our own stars

Thought Oliver was one of our only real fighters last week

Thanks Roosy , I am now a better person as my mood swings have become less frequent.

I'm still peed off with our first quarter effort, but Carlton obviously had a clever tactic which we were not prepared for. All I can say is hopefully we can learn from this and develop counter measures in the off season , so we are in better shape next year to make a proper run at finals. Maybe throw Hogan in the middle to create a bit of chaos and break things up, maybe get the ball going our way.

It's funny, Hunts probably been our most consistent youngster but no nomination this year, and yet we have four nominated. Anyway, bigger fish to fry for this team. Bring on 2017

What I find ridiculous is that the media portray Howe as being a revelation at half back playing for the pies when he played that position with the Demons as well.

Did we put a hard tag on Cripps Coz he totally owned us.

We still need a top line mid , Cripps creamed us today.

I lost count the amount times Gawn hit it directly to Cripps

Jones tried but fumbly, lacked skill