Adam The God

12 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I’ve got Smith at 1, followed by Draper and Langford. I do like you have Nathan Freeman concerns regarding Lalors hammies 

I like Draper, I just unfairly don't consider him as he's a South Aussie, so let's go for the Victorian kid. That's my thinking anyway.

37 minutes ago, adonski said:

 

What can Reid do that Smith can't? 

1 hour ago, Young Blood said:

Fair enough.

Physically I see O'Sullivan with elite agility. He has the Kozzy like bounce/footwork and quick lateral movement and burst to get himself free. Long legs with long strides with a booming kick, covers a lot of ground. Makes good decisions and doesn't waste many possessions. 

He's more of an outside mid/wing at this stage but I think he could develop his inside game over time. Which is why he'd be perfect for us fit-wise at the moment.

I will agree with you that he has had an up and down year being in and out with injuries without a clear run. I watched him play a few games including VFL for Richmond where he really held his own and showed some of the pure talent.

This kid oozes talent and has the highest upside in the whole draft. I would be thrilled if he dropped to us. He's like a Josh Kelly with more speed and agility. 

He's listed at 182cm but I reckon that's an old measurement. I'd say he's closer to 184-185cm now.

I don't see it, but we all see it differently. 

9 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Curious as to why no O'Sullivan? I think he's the most talented player in this draft and has the highest skill and quick footwork we need as an outside mid.

Lalor is very tempting but won't have much impact in his first season (or two maybe). As he mentioned in a recent interview he hasn't had much pre seasons of late because he plays high grade cricket. He mentioned coming into this years season underdone. I think it will take a few pre seasons for him to build a proper AFL level of fitness and conditioning to perform at the level.

FWIW my order of preference:

1. O'Sullivan - Shades of Heeney with how complete his all round game is. His ability to get out of traffic is elite

2. Jagga - Definitely has that forward run out of stoppages like Butters. He has super strong hips like a Daicos too

3. Draper - Although I think he'll get snapped up by Adelaide or WC I think he is the exact player we need with his skill and pure speed as a midfielder. He's a jet. I think he's the most like Warner in this draft.

4. Langford - I'm not sure where he will fit in to this current team but long term a solid choice as a midfield workhorse that could develop into a Dawson/Cripps type mid with his size.

Just doesn't do it for me. Low production, no real elite traits that I can see, not sure what his x factor is.

Moves a bit like Trac, but has little hurt factor.

7 hours ago, Ted Lasso said:

I've landed on my top 3 in order of preference 

1. Finn O'Sullivan (Will be gone)

2. Harvey Langford (Gun, probably will be gone 

3. Jagga Smith (either goes pick 1, or likely slips through)

I'm sitting with:

1. Jagga Smith - the next Butters and the perfect complement to Clarry, Trac and Viney.

2. Harvey Langford - good accumulator, great mark and kick.

3. Sam Lalor - Bit worried about his hammies.

15-20. Cooper Hynes - got Chad Warner speed and power from the contest, and can get it done in the forward half.

2 minutes ago, Gator said:

I suspect less.

But Clarry, when fit and breaking random windshield wipers, is the better player.

At least Clarry's not avoiding paying his child support...

2 hours ago, COOLX said:

As for backups (temporary possibly) Leek Aleer (GWS) Macrae and Caleb Daniel ( WB ) . 

Hunter offers nothing and to a degree so those Chandler and Sparrow. Where does Spargo rate, anyone. 

Would love Aleer. Is going to be a very good player.

8 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

I think that they will come to supporter groups to help raise equity, MCC, MFC, AFL ( they owe us big time) State & Fed Govt. this is not like the Cats Colosseum.

They absolutely will, that's their go to.

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

I sort of feel like Spargo's only chance to make it back into this team is as a high HFF essentially the Nibbler role. Like you I'd love to be able to utilise his kicking into the 50 ability but I just feel like he gets a bit lost when he's deployed on a wing. 

Stanger things happen though, didn't think Gus had any business out wide before we tried it. 

Yeah, Nibbler basically plays/played as a third winger, with a greater licence to join in on offence.

I don't think we want Spargo in the midfield rotation @dazzledavey36, I'd prefer we go after a Jagga Smith, who has moved into number 1 target spot for us IMO.

Play Charlie between high half forward, wing and deep forward. Charlie getting to the foot of contests like he did in 2018 and 2021 inside 50 made him a dangerous small. Needs to do the same again. I do have concerns about his fitness though given the long lay off. Let's hope he's back on the track soon.

12 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Yes, ours will be quite high as a total, it's expected to be around $100-120 million, of which we have committed $20-25 million.

So that's $20-25mill from the $32mill(?) sale of the Bentleigh Club? Of course, we'd have hopefully generated significant return on that from speculation in financial markets and interest, but that's a large amount to sink into the project, I'm sure it can't he helped though and the Caulfield asset gain will outstrip holding the Bentleigh Club. 

7 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I'd love to know which games they were. In 2022, Spargo had 3 games where he got more than 15 possessions, and in 2023 he failed to get more than 15 possessions in any game.

As a comparison, a first year player in Windsor got more than 15 possessions in 9 out 19 games.

And you want to replace Windsor on the wing with Spargo? 

Spargo is the most overrated player by Demonlanders.

Look back over Gus' possession count for 2021. Spargo played the defensive wing. It was about covering and trying to provide an outlet going forward.

I want to use Spargo's aerobic capacity and his ball use, and maximise Windsor's damage as a half back ball user and line breaker. This is the compromise you have to make when you don't land Houston. We need faster and better ball users off half back.

I'd also like to give Windsor 2 or 3 CBAs occasionally to get him used to it.

15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Isn't he good mates with Blake Howse?

Yes.

8 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Dingley has a budgeted cost of $113 M for the Hawks facility

(The land cost was under $8M)

Yep, I'd heard ours would require similar funding, great news if not, but remains to be seen. 

2 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

They aren’t proposing to build Dubai.:: it’s a few football ovals, a pavilion and a 4 storey HQ..: a members fundraising and some contribution from council and state governments will be enough. I’m in construction and the total cost for this isn’t going to be exorbitant 

What are we talking though? I had previously heard tens of millions...

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

Not sure Spargo will ever be a viable wing with his zero overhead game, but Chandler took some rotations in the last 2 weeks and looked fine.

We need to do what every other club does and realise the wing is largely a trash position and stop spending so much on it and rotate guys through. 

Chander, Fritsch, Tholstrup should all play some minutes there, heck even Disco if he has a big summer and that way Windsor and Langdon can move around.

Spargo played some wing in 2022-2023 to good effect IMO.

19 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

So true - but we really need to secure a couple more picks in the top 25. Assuming we get one from Adelaide from ANB, we need to be creative to get another from somewhere so we have 3 in that group of 25. 

Definitely trade the future first for mine.

5 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

So it's still peak MFCSS in here? [censored]. The $$$ will already be pretty much locked in.

What is this based on?

The business case is to come.

There should be multiple co-financing avenues with the multiple racing clubs, MCC, state, federal and even local govs, the AFL and our own cash injections, but this is a commercial team that struggled to get a short's sponsor for a team that had finished top 4 three years in a row and won a flag.

As for MFCSS, it's actually just a lack of trust now sullied over multiple years by the administration, nothing to do with the football side of things. At least not for me.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that is super deflated by this.

I don't trust their economic nous either to bring the financing puzzle together.

If we went with Owies, we could play Spargo on the non Langdon wing and play Windsor between half back and midfield.

2 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

One of the poorer suggestions yet. Apart from kicking the odd goal I don't know what this guy offers...

This is like @WERRIDEEs post in the other thread RE Goody.

He kicks goals. They're handy in football.

I'm not convinced Hunter has a year left.

And I'd be staggered if he's on the list next year.

3 minutes ago, Sydee said:

If we want to persist with both Turner and Petty inside F50 and Tomlinson goes Young might be worthy of a list spot. I think hapless is a stretch tbh and he can kick off both sides pretty well which is rare for a KPD.

If Jed Adams was showing more I’d agree he may not be worth pursuing but atm if May or Lever gets injured which they seem prone to do he might be a good back up 

He might be worth a spot, but I'd rather treat TMac as the back up or the guy who starts 2025 in the best 23 and look to push someone like a Riak Andrew through there by the end of the year.

22 minutes ago, MO FINE said:

Since he's an over ager, does this mean he's no longer in our NGA (or eligible to be selected by us as an NGA?

I don't think he is. Could be wrong though.

47 minutes ago, Skuit said:

A brief time out from our differences mate: did you adopt the Adam the God moniker to outdo and bait our friend Steve the Man? 

Nah, I just needed to change my name after Steve dubbed me Binman's PA. It was my wife's suggestion. 🤣

1 hour ago, djr said:

What a ridiculous comment.

It's pretty incontrovertible that the off field has gone down hill since 2019. Within just over a year, the president was replaced, now we've had another president replaced, and for the last 12 months, we've been leaking like a sieve. That culture is set from the executive. Under PJ we did not leak. I think you'll find there's been a significant commercial drop off this year too, which is partly a result of on field, but also a lack of commercial nous from those at the top. We didn't get a shorts sponsor for ages...