Adam The God

32 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Um, have you been paying attention? The Board, at last count, have overseen six senior people departing the club inside the last four months and at least seven in the last 12 months. I would say they are holding themselves to account at a very high level.

The chair of the Member Engagement Committee is still on the board, I note...

You know, the same MEC that has overseen the loss of 12,000 members, whilst not engaging with the membership base (seemingly) at all.

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

If he gets to us I bet we snap him up in a flash because the coach will pound the table for a guy who plays the most like Tom Stewart that I’ve seen from a junior defender.

That's an interesting comparison.

Yeah, he's a much better option than Lindsay IMO. His kicking is not as attacking, but he can still hit the angle and can actually defend and win 1v1s. Compare Lindsay, who is all handball receive or intercept, with Taylor and it's chalk and cheese IMV. Would suit King's professed game style too.

I'm still in the Grlj and Dovaston double, but if Taylor slipped instead of Grlj then I'd be happy enough with Taylor and Dovaston. I think Grlj has a much higher ceiling, but Taylor looks a solid AFL prospect. A safe bet if you will.

3 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Also agree that we should be identifying the skill set we need and then advertising for the best candidate. Almost looks like we have selected our man and then cherry picked his CV to announce the skill set we were looking for.

Spot on. It could also be notable that one current board member works in production and the guy put forward is a Stan man.

What is also concerning is that Dan Taylor is based in Sydney. That will make engaging with members and getting to games pretty difficult.

I know @William manages to come from interstate every week, but is Taylor a rusted on?

13 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

There already is such a committee, DZ. It’s called the Member Engagement Committee and it’s relatively new.

As far as I know, to date this committee hasn’t engaged with the Demon Army, which one would expect. We have just on 1,000 members (at varying levels of participation, but all fully paid up MFC & DA members) which is a substantial chunk of our overall membership, and it becomes more significant as our overall membership drops.

Wow. I wasn't aware that the MEC hadn't consulted the DA, Ghosty. It's pretty clear Barlow has done nothing with it.

The fact that Smith mentioned it in the email as an achievement of Green's is concerning to me. Classic spin.

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I understand it’s nitpicking.

It definitely is.

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

99% of the population are morons. I’m happy to leave it up to the professionals with the serious skill sets.

Professional board members?

The problem is we have a long history of having successful business people (mostly men) who have had no idea how to run a football club, sit on our board.

The only competent administration we've seen in my lifetime was PJ-led, when he basically ran everything and told the board to stay out of his business.

As soon as they made a decision of their own (appointing Pert), they stuffed it up and the club has been on the decline from the foundations that PJ built ever since.

We're now a few thousand members ahead of North Melbourne. North [censored] Melbourne. What an indictment on the foundation club that won a flag 4 years ago! And no one is being held accountable at board level for 12,000 members going missing this year.

Barlow seems to have been brought onto the board for his money alone (ie Caulfield), because he's done sweet FA with member engagement when there was plenty of opportunity to do so this year.

Great that you're happy to have a board stacked with nuffies slowly running the club into the ground, but I hope for King and the players' sake, we start to get the right people on who can ensure the governance of the club is overseen to a high standard. Might be a good idea to open the field a little to ensure we actually get the best candidate.

1 hour ago, Billy said:

Just get good footballers that are solid citizens, sick & tired of [censored] that are ruining our club & the previous management that have let these players get away with it

When you say the previous management, do you mean Green, Rennick and Porz? Only Rennick is leaving this year... head rots from the top.

Just now, praha said:

Sorry, where in the letter does it specifically tell us who to vote for?

They've named a candidate in Dan Taylor, which implicitly begins a process of electioneering.

You don't name a candidate without implicitly putting forward your preferred choice.

Smith has avoided saying it explicitly, but the message is the same.

And as @binman put it nicely earlier in the thread, perhaps implicitly, it undermines trust in the process.

15 minutes ago, demoncat said:

I think if the Tigers don’t take him he’s a good chance to fall to our pick

Purely speculation (based on phantom drafts and my own vibe) but I think the Dons would be more likely to take Sharp and Cumming over him (and they would definitely take Robey or Taylor if they’re available)

I hope you're right mate.

Fast forward 3 years time and a midfield of Kozzy, Windsor, Grlj, Lindsay and Langford is box office IMO.

That's your midfield core you build around.

I think if we get Grlj and Dovaston this year, our list build is at the point where we can start targeting FAs. And with two first rounders next year, we have some trade capital to satisfy a Butters or Humphrey deal.

I know I'm jumping ahead early, but I'd be targeting Humphrey over Butters as aside from Rivers (and Kolt?) we lack that explosive power player that Humphrey can be. Not to mention we're far more likely to land Humphrey than Butters.

Imagine if we got Grlj and Dovaston. I think both will play early next year and both be guns at AFL level.

31 minutes ago, Random Task said:

I hope he falls to our pick, but doubt it.

15 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Bigger question is why are so many of our supporters weak as [censored] and don't renew memberships.

Well surely, Chris Barlow has to take huge responsibility for this?

He's listed as the chair of the Member Engagement Committee.

melbournefc.com.au

Came onto the board this time last year and was appointed chair of MEC and in that time we've lost 12,000 members.

What are they actually doing with the MEC? Why mention it in the email if it's overseen a loss of so many members?

If you can't or won't engage with members, hand the chairship to someone who will.

Guerra should be running this himself. The approach we should follow is what would Peter Jackson do? He'd take over the MEC and drive it himself. Then at the AGM, he'd be up there imploring members to ring up every MFC supporter they know with lapsed membership, and be telling them to jump back on board.

2 hours ago, Radar Detector said:

There is a difference between filling a casual vacancy before an election and identifying a candidate to run in an election with the skills the Board has identified as necessary.

But publicising who it is through official channels is pushing a candidate.

The board knows a signficant portion of the membership are against this.

4 hours ago, rjay said:

Sorry, but that is rubbish.

The buck stops with the board.

That's what they are there for, to oversee the operations of the whole club and given its main business is football that's where they needed to pay most attention.

If Max was a problem or not doing his job as skipper it was up to the board to put it right.

Far out.

Fancy blaming Max for not being able to control all the chaos that surrounded the FD, some of the blow torch was a direct result of the board not being able to put out a fire with a past president, so the coach had an article about him pop up every few months that would drag everyone down with it.

The board then failed to get proper support around Goody and Richo, which goes to the CEO at the time, who was ultimately appointed by the board.

Sure, players have responsibilities, but it's a tale as old as time. Board stability and structure helps breed on field success and vice versa.

Smith becomes the fourth president in a row to tell us who to vote for as the board fills another casual vacancy prior to board elections. His framing tries to avoid saying this, but that's what's been said here.

I sound like a broken record, but Rennick said that members had given them clear feedback that we didn't like this approach.

And yet they continue to do it.

28 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

He plays a role as a distributed off half back. He isn’t meant to be a contested bull

I didn't say he needed to be a contested bull, but he needs to be able to win contests. You can't just receive at AFL level. You won't make it. And for a top 10 pick, that's too much of a gamble IMO.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Not a bad comparison. However I think Lindsay is a much better kick than Salem ever was/is (in my view)

Yep, IMV, Lindsay is a much more incisive and attacking kick than Salo is, who is more about maintaining possession. Lindsay sets up offensive chains.

But the question marks over his contested ability is too much of a glaring weakness in his game for mine.

1 hour ago, Axis of Bob said:

I agree with this. He looks fantastic. A lot of Xavier Lindsay about him in that he’s quick, clean and tough. Didn’t play champs, not super prolific and a type that gets lost in the mix a bit, but looks to have some real AFL traits to him.

Jared Polec clone IMO.

52 minutes ago, bing181 said:

There's not any evidence that King even spoke to May, yet alone the rest of the playing group. In fact, King himself said:

“I haven’t had a chance to sit down with Steven yet, that was more a list management decision,”

King spoke to May. Take it to the bank.

7 hours ago, The end is nigh said:

I’m pinning all leaks on DJ

Don Johnson?

59 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It is just plain wrong to take cheap shots at one person unless they can provide examples of the 'embarrassment and shame' leaks.

I was insinuating Trac, I was wondering whether the leaks will stop now.

We've had numerous articles about the club recently that talk of new CEO, new President, new coach etc, we have a fresh start.

In other words, there's no real need to leak damaging information about the club.

Be interesting to see if we stop leaking now.

26 minutes ago, adonski said:

Sparrow trimmed down for preparation of his bricklaying career in 12 months time post footy

Pretty ordinary post.

21 minutes ago, shakeandbake said:

That's the million dollar question and what I can see is dominating opinions throughout the thread. I understand the love for Grjl, comparisons to Butters and the desire to land an inside/outside mid. Is that over correcting though when we have Kossie and Windsor to play/grow into that role. I envisage X Lindsay will become our next Angus Brayshaw. Could play inside mid but is required across the wing or half back due to adaptability. I still think you need a couple who can go inside and get centre bounce and clearance ascendency at times. Viney and Steele will be gone in three years. That's why I see Robey learning as a HFF and growing into a mid/fwd role as perfect for list needs.

Grjl could definitely play half forward. Just as Dovaston could. Both are great off the line and off the edge of the square.

The more I watch of Grjl, the more excited I get. I just don't think he'll be on the board when it's our pick.