Adam The God
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2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said: … and Luker, don’t forget Luker!
Well, I have time for Adams as well. And I left put Howes, who I think will be a handy player, but I was more wanting to illustrate that every player I mentioned had shown something at AFL level.
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1 hour ago, old dee said: A very good question joeboy. The answer is as you allude to! The majority are average at best. Average players don't win games. Good and very good players win games, finals and flags.
Except taking a dig at our young talent based on this year's performance is like taking a dig at our young talent in 2019 or 2020. Strawman.
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1 minute ago, poita said: All of those named are already in the senior side and several are already among our best performers. Who is on the list who is going to break into our senior side in the next year or two and add something significant that we don't currently have? I don't have great hopes for anyone currently at Casey making the grade.
I don't rate particularly Carlton's young talent either, but they do have Jagga Smith to bring in from round 1 next year.
It's quite well known that the more games you get into youngsters, the more they'll be able to impose themselves on games.
When McVee, Langford, Lindsay start to impact games and stay in contests for longer, run harder, concentrate for longer, as we've seen with Kozzy, they have the potential to change the way we play.
We have been on a list shift since the end of 2023. We're resetting on the run and it's making for some ugly results and a very poor ladder position.
We need some aggressive trading and list management this year (again), and we'll start to see more improvement. But to imply we've got little emerging talent is nonsense.
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Just now, joeboy said: Please advise who is the ‘promising young talent’ you speak of at Melbourne
McVee, Windsor, Lindsay, Langford, Turner and Bowey is a pretty good start. Add JVR, Kolt and maybe even Picket's mate and we've got some good developing youth. Along with Chandler, Kozzy and Rivers on the next age bracket up.
Please advise whether you support Melbourne. Thanks very much.
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47 minutes ago, demon3165 said: The facts are that God wouldn't get a kick in our forward line with the lack of kicking skills and decision-making by the midfield players bringing the ball in.
I don't buy this train of thought.
We don't have trouble getting it in there. We have trouble converting.
Ironically, McKay probably doesn't help with that.
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Just now, Sir Why You Little said: And what would you suggest that Greeny has done wrong and should have done better?
The problems have come from the Football Department, not the Board
He should have gone with option #1 for CEO, who would already be at his desk and working.
Our FD problems stem from a nothing, charade of a review last year.
Brad was the football director, he should have been the conduit between FD and board, along with (likely) the CEO. And yet we had our two beat midfielders, arguably of all time, trying to request trades out of the club last year.
They both love Goody, but things in the FD were allowed to fester. Whose fault is that? The board should take no ownership over the demise of things both on and off field?
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On 19/06/2025 at 23:59, Sir Why You Little said: shouldn’t effect the Football Department at all.
The Club has been running smoothly with the interim positions.
The Football Department has not given 100% performances, that has been laid bare, and because of it we are sitting in the Bottom 4
Letting your mate Greeny off pretty easily as usual. Our board has been asleep at the wheel since at least 2020. An interim president and an interim CEO. As @rjay says, how was this allowed to happen? Not good enough.
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On 22/06/2025 at 10:45, Mouseymoo said: Can we trade JT for a guy that can identify forward talent?
What a [censored] post.
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Hyperbole as usual. Caleb is not a poor kick. Neither is he an elite kick. He's a decent kick who is a pretty bloody good kick for goal on the run.
He had an incredibly consistent first season and then has spent time learning a new role at the same time as battling injury.
Give him time.
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14 minutes ago, Roost it far said: Did he turn us down?
Do a bit of googling with Caroline Wilson. He was strongly favoured by AFL HQ too. Just as Peter Jackson was back in the day.
Instead we got a guy with no footy background at all.
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8 minutes ago, seventyfour said: So should we have settled for the next best option to start right away or wait 6 months for the best option?
We should have gone with our first option.
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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said: Think its been well documented that he wouldn't be able to start around September.
But what a stuff up. Fancy hiring a new CEO during the season, having taken 6 months to hire a new one, and the new guy can't start for another 6 months.
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On 18/06/2025 at 01:15, Supreme_Demon said: If that's the case and the Government has tightend the purse strings, then we will need to do another Fund-raising campaign.
The rank-and-file members can only contribute so much. However, the wealthier Melbourne supporters like Chris Barlow (who is a Board member) and others should hopefully be able to contribute significantly.
I think raising $100 million dollars is achievable. But it's certainly tough!
This will be incoming CEO David Guerra's ultimate challenge. Get the Demon's Home Base finally built!
The only reason Barlow would have a seat at the table is if he was willing to put his hand in his pocket big time...
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Think it would have been nice if the president emailed members to update them of the change in plan, rather than us read speculation in the media.
Green has been pretty email happy all year, but silent on this.
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9 minutes ago, bing181 said: People keep repeating this ad nauseam, but in actual fact, there's little evidence for that, either in the AFL or the across other sports internationally.
Bringing in a new coach with a few new key players is a different story. Though equally, bringing in a few new key players in itself is a different story.
That's not true.
A very good example in AFL that many point to is Collingwood. They finished 17th in 2021...
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11 hours ago, bing181 said: You don't even need to doubt, changing coaches would achieve nothing. (Has been shown countless times.)
Real change can only come through list change.
There is definitely a middle ground, bing.
A different coach could change things, but Goody is also coaching to the list that won a flag and finished top 4 with the old game style.
IMV, our best approach is to be super aggressive with list management, make some tough decisions at the end of 2025 and let Goody coach for his Melbourne career in 2026.
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Speculation only, but the way Guerra talked in his first two or three interviews as incoming CEO, already shifting the possibility to somewhere other than Caulfield, I think the club knew this would likely fall over, or at the very least were trying to temper expectations.
As for this careful piece of framing "Melbourne is hopeful its business case on the new site will be complete by the end of the year amid what the club says is broad support from local residents for the project."
This sounds like it's all over this year.
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It's too simplistic to correlate inside 50s with scores.
With repeat entries, you have an entire side defending and neutralising those entries.
Geelong and Collingwood have spent years often losing inside 50s and winning matches.
Because if you can slingshot back into a relatively empty inside 50 at the other end, you get easier chances.
So they've made their relatively poor contested winning midfields work by focusing on post clearance and winning defensive 1v1s inside D50 and then transitioning the ball up the other end with precise and fast ball movement.
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51 minutes ago, rpfc said: I have been thinking about the management of our list lately and the laser focus of Viney, Roos, and Mahoney on tough ball winners and defensive stalwarts set us up well for the 2021 flag but the over commitment to that is what we are straining over now. We don’t seem capable of picking the right kid or pro with forward instincts or with requisite skills and decision making behind the ball (McVee was a rookie pick). Perhaps XL and Windsor belay the last point but our forward line really struggles beyond Pickett, Melksham, and Chandler for consistent and empathetic forward movement and nous.
I do wonder how much our poor ball use from the midfield prevents our forwards from leading up at the ball carrier.
If I were a forward, I'd be leading up at Kozzy, Bowey, Salem, Langford and Lindsay. That's about it.
The rest of them wildly kick to the disadvantage of the forwards. Viney was back to his worst again yesterday. Like Rounds 2-5.
Compare Langford's kick on top of the head of a Port defender, which allowed Turner(?] to have the sit was brilliant.
I think we can turn things round, but I agree with you, @Howard_Grimes , we need to make some bold and aggressive trades.
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May loses a contest against Horne-Francis, runs underneath the ball and Max has to make a dangerous tackle.
May then lets Burgoyne mark uncontested 15m out. 🤦
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Luke Jackson back to Victoria?
in Melbourne Demons
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I think you could make the argument that this actually goes back to the 2007-2011 list management decisions that left a gap in Max and TMac age demo, which meant instead of having those guys, we had to spend picks on acquiring the Mays, Melkshams, Hibberds.
So we're still playing catch up with the next generation and it's probably something that will only right itself if we keep making good decisions as we build that next core.