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self belief is what makes ALL the difference in talented but struggling young players. don't you ever ! look within the words, to search for the meaning ? or you haven't discovered this yourself, yet.

belief; self; a funny thing, happened on the way to the 'G'.

And he's a senior leader now... who is playing like a baby boy. He is NOT showing the way forward, as a 28Yr old regular senior player should be. ... more in the mold of, watts his name again. lackluster efforts.

Garlett has to be dropped, for not turning up for 2018.

not looking with an open viewpoint. looking thru a glass onion. so many can't see, what they do not want to see. the forward who maybe a defender in waiting. or the defender who maybe a wingman?

Well lets hope he's lay'd claim to all of them then. We might need the whole family yet.

Glass chins, never get stronger. Just like 2 chins, they never return to singularity.

Yes, I realise that. he lived around Sandringham I think. the point remains IF he wants to go West, I'd be Open to that happening. if we were compensated rightly.

That was the hawks pressure and our clubs collective panic, setting in. The Melbourne Yips, is what i'm talking about. (that here we go again thing) We have to work on 'cutting it', from all our minds. because what it does is magnify the pressure our players feel out there. They do indeed sense it. the fear/negativity. All Demons must learn to NOT Fear.

I'd be open to that if Angus wanted to go home West. If he wanted to do that, I would be open to trade. Also there is no guarantee on his health, in future seasons.

LoL. Devils advocate. I think he may well have been in the line of sight of selectors after his efforts. but not now. So, IMO, if I was selector, I would be looking to add a nippy player who can be defensive minded, to account for some nimble Hawks.

I guess its just his position in footy life, pd.

Yeah that bloody Misson has gotta lot to answer for. handicapping our players like he does. did anyone here have any success sacking him, ever ? better not stuff up our September glory Miss'.

Simple. When houses, medicine and food, & just plain living, become a slavery act to survive, then the current capitalistic system has gone beyond its use buy date. This is the end of capitalism as we know it, because its become a cannibal. The anti-christ has worked its spell into the big 'C' ; and now its all downhill for big 'C'... 'the people, they are a changin'.

The "already developed" term, was in reference to his footy development.. not his mind/emotional development. That's the point of the post, that 'the inner club culture' has to be strong, beneficial, & supportive, with strong discipline. The doggies seems to me, a raw culture changing almost daily. they were a young talented team without enough senior leaders who could hold things together. They rode the crest of an emotional wave through to the Premiership, and never really got off that wave until it crashed ashore. Now its spot the pieces, and pickup what you can find. Stringer Wines and Grundy were my picks, to go with Viney, who was a lock for us. I wanted big size mids in that draft. And those who had other skills, like forward skills. see (Grundy & Stringer) It turns out the best options from hindsight show us that Wines & Grundy would have been the better partners for Viney. And we had one of them in the palm. Oh Toddy.

most footy supporters are from the lower half of this equation. If footy is about community, and the rotation of goodwill, & also money moving across that community, how is it good for most of it (money) to end-up in the pocket of too few ? This is not good for anything, Let alone footy and community.

Do we have to continue the bentleigh club, til 2021 ? Or can we shut the pokies down and sell the place?

Yes true but it also shows how impressionable young players heads are, & the so called "already developed" argument is. And how arrogance is destructive in a club environment. One minute world beaters, next minute pillow fluff.

So was Jake Stringer prior to drafting.

Has Viney had collagen injections in his Lips ?

I agree chook. Lets return the club back to the people and footy supporters of RednBlue... let the people back Inn.

I believe it because I know that it occurs. And when someone comes out in this forum, saying just that, via a player's information. I take that with respect. The poster is putting themselves in the firing line. Going out on the limb. There was no malice in the post, nor was there a hint of trying to be disruptive. Just honesty. The more honest we all are, the less this sort of games-playing behind the scenes, will occur. Its not the messenger that is at fault. Its the deceptive games played in business;,, that is the Fault.

Its not just clubs that play mind-games with players & put out feelers, Its also player managers at contract time, to threaten clubs for more dollars.

If they reported every whisper of clubs feelers, at end of season, they would end up with no cred, because most of these feelers end up with nothing happening, because the players club isn't serious; but want to create a little insecurity in lazy player X. Ttrying to shake them out of lethargy. See Watts at end of Roos 2nd season, Watts dropped for last game. Whispers about watts trade scenarios's. Watts 3rd Roosy season is a beaut. Sign contract extension. Goody's first year and watts is back to not Putin-in, again. ta-ta. It happens. every end of year.

He does jr. But he needs to 'kick the door in' prior to. He hasn't played a game for points, just yet. I would wait until after the 1st game in the VFL, and see how he goes under some heat first.