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bugga. Well that leaves us now in a position, forced on us, to play a better forward structure. # on the weekend... rot. Jesse has been hobbling for some time. notably against the Crows. . What are the doctors doing... how many stress fractures go un-diagnosed, until its plainly obvious to the TV cameras ?

Hogans best position is playing, high 40+ out from goal, and around the centreline... Taking marks in the wide part of the ground, and bringing the ball in to our deeper players... a true CHF position. Jesse is a natural, roaming wide to find the footy__ Which is why i wanted us to take him, some years back. TMc is better standing his ground to take strong overhead marks than Jesse. TMc has a better leap into a pack, from the rear or the side. Add Pedo, who is another like these two, more like Tmc. Weide is different, in that he plays more like a tall forward, Re packs, high marks, and as a follower__ Which is why I wanted him in the first place, some years back. I also wanted Grundy.? .

whats happened, I have see any news yet.

No MSF, I don't watch fox. But my point is nothing to do with Hogan's ability. We have too many players for his position, compared to elite mids we don't have. He is not suited close to goal, with the way we bring the ball in. Weideman is better with the high ball than Jesse. Jesse would be better playing Petracca's role, than playing deep. half-foward/mid. The whole gist of my points are to trade, to get elite mids into the club. We have to give something, to get something. Hogan will be a star somewhere. No point having star forwards, if they can't get the ball in the first place. This is our dilemma.

yes it is Drts. We have too many of the same types, in relation to our needs; as forwards and as mids.

No, msf, its confidence related... but the problem remains... our midfield needs better mids, who use the ball smarter. We still have to somehow,,, get those players onto our list. it's imperative we do, because we are crucifying our tall forwards, and the smalls as well to a lesser extent. Hogan is out of position for his skills.

Its because I challenge the status quo... and because of this; I think outside the status-quo box,,, so then I have different thoughts/ideas, to those conservatives caught up within that box. 'They', just do more of the same,,, each time. coming up with the same results time after time_] I challenge them _ from the words of the song to the mental theme of the club and supporters. from the culture,,, to the vibe/noise in the stands on game-day. I am getting results... back at the expense of my own well-being. .

... his current method does not work closer to goal.

sshhh, go back to sleep swyl, back on your bottle lil fella.

that's your problem swyl, your wide awake. back on the bottle ol boy.

go back to sleep swyl.

I think we know, we lack the poised skilled players with some speed, to put thru there. Hopefully Stretch will turn out to be one of them. If your aware of others we have, please let me know, as I don't know of them yet. Our backs are decent, when Hibbo is in, but Hibbo & Jetta are near on 29yrs, already... Only Fritta I think comes close to the call atmo, for the centreline.

then don't read it swyl,,,, because most are saying that very same thing. If you don't like it, then stay off the thread because most are saying the same things,,,, depending on what side of the fence they're on. So, Off you go, back to asia, sun-lounges, and a drink.

DZ, he was always playing as a mobile tall forward, in the juniors, that I recall anyway. From the early vision of him. He is a very good player, playing out of position. But TMc has the spot suited to Jesse.

you miss the point altogether. again and again.

That is my point, NC. I agree with what you say Re midfield. We have to be able to give something to get something. We are just not good enough thru midfield, Re delivering the ball, so we can use it. We can wait forever and a day for the less skilled players to learn to better their skills,,, but I don't think this is an option. We have to become hunters again and get on the chase. We will be battling against the Hawks, Blues, Bombers, and to a lesser extent the Pies for this type player, (oh, Roos as well). It will costas... we will need room in salary cap, and we will need picks most likely. What we do have are 2 players with value, that we can cover. What we don't have, is what we lack. Class with Poise, ball users.

So its our midfield that's the Problem, NC?

I would hope so MSF.

We don't have the class running thru the midfield, to create quickly enough, for this to happen,,, at this point. this is what thee trade discussion is all about. __ getting those class running player's.... onto our list. Thats right. if you read my posts last night, you would have seen my answer to that. .... I give him one more season, to become more mature and Professional about his footy. before the heat comes onto his career. He's a kid who should enjoying his footy... but he's nowhere near fit enough, and should be working on his agility and speed.

This, is about to Swing back again juzzkid1. One pick, and the deal does not get done... Simple, it has to be a top 10 pick + another. The open spaces are about to open up again, via rule changes,,, and tall deep forwards will be back in business. But Hogan is no deep forward. He's a step ladder, in that part of the ground.

It depends not on GWS,,, but on the players themselves, IF they want to move to Melbourne ?

They can all catch the high ball, Jaded. They all have good hands, and can kick straight. So as they rotate past deep forward they are genuine targets. Add Fritsch as well.

Weideman, TMc, Petracca, Hannan, Gawn;,,, and others not seen by us yet, with the proceeds.

He was playing high half-forward, midfield, and that had his enjoyment high, and confidence was up. He could run about and collect kicks at will. He is NO full forward.

Yes, obvious call. I called for this last year. for him to play like Ryan O'Keefe did. and like jRiewoldt is now.