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Wrong thread for this but: If that's the case, our negotiating team know this presumably. So why no BH?

Imperative?!

Recenly joins Demonland, chooses a name so similar to Demon Forever - I smell a rat (and it's not humourous).

But if it's that bad, why are GWS not being more cautious?

The fact (if it is a fact) that Sun's don't care about those picks is not a fault of the MFC, nor is them having an academy gold mine our fault, so I don't see how the situation is 'exactly what's wrong with the MFC'. I doubt we are just interested in what looks good on paper. I think we are simply in a difficult situation if we know keeping Petracca will not be good for the club. If we aren't too concerned about that, the Sun's will just have to win a cup with what they already have. I can't personally form a view because that is the critical question which we can only guess at.

Why do so many people think the decisions are made by Lamb alone? Is it just a desire to have a single sacrifical lamb?

I don't know how much it was ham-fisted by us or an over-reaction by Oliver. I doubt anyone here does.

I make of it that you do cryptic crosswords

No idea myself, but it seems King didn't think it possible.

I think this must be the case. If he got upset at the role change, surely if the club still wanted him, the club would get someone like Gawn to sit down with him and talk him around. Has Gawn spoken to him?

I'd be surprised if worrying about boosting a team which would be competitive for the flag is of much significance compared with other issues with list management.

Forgive me for not keeping up but where has the club said anything about paying $700k? Surely that would be negotiated

If he wasn't getting to play the role he wanted, I would have thought all those sackings you listed might have caused him to think again about wanting to go. Things would be different than they were when he was [censored] off. There's more to it than our club's alledged incompetence.

I take from that that the club is wisely avoiding commenting of anything which would affect any negotiations.

Relax a bit PF. You said 'it seems' but react as if 'it' is 100% true. Explode as much as you like if it turns out to be true.

People read a lot negative into it when Tracc said "It's my job". But that could also indicate that if we can't get good deal with the Suns, he'll be back doing his "job" at MFC. (And who knows what would happen by the end of 2026.) Of course if the club is desperate to get rid of him, we might accept crumbs. But I don't think any of us or the Suns would know if are we that desperate.

It's a bit rough when we start shooting arrows into oppo players.

Ah ha - also explains why he didn't try to find a flight direct from Melb to USA.

Thanks. I don't doubt your timeline, but surprised that anyone travelling from Melb to USA would plan an overnight stay in Sydney rather than just transfer terminals at Kingsford Smith.

I'm baffled by the different timelines that people are using to bolster their positions. I understood that the sequence was: Oliver meets King - immediately goes to airport to Sydney for his overseas trip - meets with GWS on boat. Was it all in one day or over 2 days?

Whether you think he went off in a huff or not, it does seem strange that he was able to arrange that boat trip so quickly. Almost as if that was always planned, meeting with King regardless?

Praha, you should get a job as a footy journo with that sort of misleading tabloid sentence. It seems widely held McVee was always leaving so it had nothing to do with 'chose to leave after meeting King'.

Does he mean that the MFC is a gigantic iceberg that can sink the most modern powerful luxury ship?

And you know this how?

I desperately need a "Good Grief" emoticon.