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I reckon the challenge is how do you develop another ruck without interfering with the development of your existing rucks? If Preuss ends up in the VFL a bit, if Bradtke is also in the side, another ruckman is only going to get slim pickings as far as actual ruck time goes. Whether we take another ruckman depends on our view about whether Preuss will mainly play for Melbourne or Casey, which is highly speculative at this point. If Preuss plays VFL but we take another ruck, we end up crowding Casey with developing rucks. If Preuss plays AFL and we didn’t take another ruck, Casey only has one ruck and it’s a development opportunity lost. Tricky call.

You could also just set fire to it; at least there’s a much lower chance of it ending up in the hands of crooks.

There are murmurings that there might be an exchange of picks on the horizon, but I think it's more likely just what's happened is the end of it and there's nothing more to come. I thought the whole thing sounded bizarre to start with as I thought he was one of their better players, so I was expecting to hear outrage from the (few) GCS fans, or their administration, or whatever, but it seems they are happy enough to let him go. More to it than meets the eye I think.

Fitzroy in 1964 were the last team to go through a whole season winless, and before that it was Hawthorn in 1950. As we know all too well, there have been some terribly awful teams in that time, but even Fitzroy in 1996 won a game while in their death throes. There will always be awful teams, but the AFL as a competition is still even enough that they only have to play out of their skins once, or have some bunch of hacks coast and drop their game, and the awful teams will get their one win at least. It won't happen. Have fun flushing your $100 down the toilet lads!

Yay! I think. My experience there in 2017 was the pits. Seats where my kids literally could not see anything, food lines 100+ deep, and the MFC played like arse. Walked out of there irritated, hungry and miserable. Shame North Hobart oval isn’t up to scratch as an AFL venue. Have never been a massive fan of Bellerive, partly because when I was a kid in to local footy, it was the home of the mortal enemy.

Two players named Ciaran in one draft? Did they not know which was which so just took both?

This stings. We all have our views on players. We like to argue and get heated over it. Sometimes we’re bloody harsh about it too - we’re passionate football fans after all. That all goes out the window and seems so petty when this happens. All I see is a bloke I can identify, who is about my age, who has had his time cut terribly short. The idea that in your 30s your best years could be behind you and what lies ahead is absolutely nothing is sobering. I recently dealt with the death of a mate and the impact it had on his family is indescribable. The football world can offer an enormous support network; I hope Colin’s family has access to it. They are going to need all they can get. I am gutted for them. Vale Colin.

Nope.

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The club may take the view that it’s a waste of time trying. I’d be inclined to think if he still couldn’t manage it despite Scott clearly being frustrated by it and his career being at risk as a result, there’s a chance he just doesn’t have it in him. Like you it perplexes me how it can be possible to not be able develop that aspect to a player’s game in the AFL environment, but it would seem that it is.

Great idea. Give a guest who is giving up his time to the fans for free a grilling as if you’re frigging A Current Affair. If you want the podcast to be unable to attract guests in the future, this would be a good place to start. This is a good opportunity to get him to clarify things that aren’t clear or explain the process in making the decisions, but levelling the questions as accusations from an ignorant position would just make us look like morons.

Oh wow, nice get. Lots of topics you could ask Josh about: 1) how he made the transition from coach (Bailey brought him here as an assistant) to administrator - I recall him saying at one stage he didn’t enjoy coaching as he thought he would or words to that effect. 2) A bit of his time as a player. He was a battler/journeyman type as a player. 3) Some general background on what happens in trade week - are some clubs as hard to deal with as they seem and can that be an obstruction to getting deals done? 4) some specifics from this trade week - did the club have a view that Jesse going was inevitable eventually? How long had we been courting May?

Cheap player in = reject from another club, must be fatally flawed Cheap player out = Mahoney blinked and let the MFC get bent over Stock standard goal post moving from those that aren’t happy unless they’re unhappy.

Agreed. I think my opinion settled on him when watching a rare televised Casey game last year where he kicked a bag of 7. He’d already shown his cleanly use of the ball in the seniors, but this game showed aerial dominance which hadn’t been evident until then. I’ve thought since then that as long as he has the appetite for hard work, for us it’s just sit back and patiently wait until he fills out and gains the confidence that comes with it. I understand why some want to see it to believe it; we’ve all been disappointed before, but sometimes I think people should just look at what’s right in front of them. Some people used Weideman’s name in the same sentence as Lucas Cook. That’s a position I didn’t understand even at the time and looks beyond stupid now.

I thought at the time Hogan was settled and wouldn’t go. I don’t think I was emphatic about it, it’s just what I thought. I did comment about the stupid tone in the “trade Hogan” movement when they popped up every time we lost. I also didn’t think the club would actively seek a trade, based on the picture that seemed apparent to me at the time, however the picture looked pretty different by the end. My bum is fine, thanks for asking.

He is a skilled bullshit artist. All his posts have an element of credibility, that’s why so many believe his crap.

He was just sharing information rp. Not sure why you’d pot him for that. Nup, can’t say it with a straight face.

It’s nice that you’re going to love Sam May but how will you feel about Steven, Ron?

12 for Preuss so he is next to Max in the locker room.

That’s how I felt too. Especially now, when it seems the inbound player in May comes across as not being able to wait to get in. There’s a lot you don’t see during the trade period itself, but the facts start to get flushed out after the dust settles. Keeping him was probably a less attractive option than I thought at the time. I still don’t begrudge Hogan though. He couldn’t commit - fine, we swap him for a player who can. No sweat.

Hijacking the thread a little (I’ll create a new one later) but I’d give Preuss 12 so he’s next to Max in the locker room.

Hopefully he turns out capable. I can’t see the workload we had on Max this year as being sustainable going forward, so I expect at times Preuss will need to play whether he’s a capable forward or not. Especially now that we’ve lost our main forward, meaning moving TMac or Weid in to the ruck hurts more than it previously did.

Jake Melksham!

WJ did you put in the leg work yourself to track all the trades? Great work if so. The trading period always seems pretty benign until you see that this year the vast majority of the picks between 10 and 50 have changed hands at least once. Some of the have really been for a few spins around the block.

The other was Caddy.