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How are we able to offer/can they ask for our Moloney compensation pick? We don't even know what it is yet or if it will even be anything. That's a major drawback of this system.

The other thing is that it's hard to see how we're going to pay other clubs for any more quality players as all our worthwhile picks (other than 4) seem to be tied up in all this other stuff, so we'll have nothing left to bargain with. If these other trades get up, i'd our involvement in the trade period to conclude.

I'd be surprised if we had room on our list for any more players on our list outside the trades already mooted. With Dawes, Petersen, Ray, Byrnes, Viney, Pick 4 and apparent promotions of Nicholson and Evans we've already added 8 without trying. Surely we will be leaving some room for new draftees.

Sewell wasn't getting a game at the time and looked bog ordinary. I had no strong opinion either way at the time as I didn't rate either player, but I'd be amazed if there were too many people who were strongly in favour of the trade. It looked like a Ben Nelson for David Gallagher trade at the time I thought.

What? HUGE chance he will stuff up. You'd almost bet on it. Even if he didn't "stuff up", you know his professionalism is lacking and above and beyond this, he's just not a good enough player to worth all that risk. I can't believe I'm even giving this idea oxygen TBH.

Richo played his career best footy post this injury. Not doubting the severity or the impact of this injury, just saying I wouldn't throw myself off a cliff over it just yet.

No point in dwelling on this. We shanked the pick, and those responsible have long since fled. The only thing I get from reflecting on it is a bad mood.

It is very unlikely that we engineered our entire trading strategy around one guy's foot. Neeld said at the end of the year that we needed support for Clark even when he was in the side and that has been the club's primary focus in the trade period. I don't think we need to in looking for hidden reasons when all the evidence supports the reason we were told by the coach himself.

It's not the fact that he can get large numbers of possessions that I like(d), it's that he wins the ball and has very fast and clean hands in contests. This is a massive strength and one we need. Of course, his fitness levels are exceedingly poor and if the reports are true about him having less-than-maximum devotion to fixing this then I agree that it's probably best he try his hand elsewhere.

Yes, GWS wanted pick 3 for themselves and wouldn't have got it if they'd forced us to use it on Viney. Surely there is no room left for "I thinks" on that one?

Just out of curiosity, which club's supporter case do you place credence in? My experience is that 99% of footy supporters are clueless, and that it doesn't matter which team they follow.

Aren't we talking about playing a key defensive role? Who cares if he can't play "catch the ball" for that? He just needs to be able to play "not get outbodied, then punch the ball away from the other guy". I think he can cope with that; he showed this year that he could.

I couldn't agree less. Sellar can play the gorilla back role and Martin (apparently) has intrinsic trade value.

He'd have to nominate for the draft of course Chook. Players have always been allowed to quit their club and chance the draft.

I know.

Thinking logically, it would be fair to assume we'd have spoken to Barry if we were considering taking him. You'd also assume we didn't waste our time talking to Martin because we knew he'd be unavailable to us and you can't speak to every player at the camp.

Woah! What the hell is going on with that guy's eyeball?

I wondered the same thing, so figured it had to be something logistical given the talent available in this draft. It differs from Hogan in that there doesn't seem to be an equivalent player to Hogan in the draft this year.

No, before that, it's the club's job to decide whether or not it's worth the effort to work it out, and before that determine whether it's even possible to work it out.

In addition to Bock and Davis? They've been caned in the last three years and I never really begrudged them for taking Thompson anyway. Any karma they they were due I think they've paid and then some.

2001 super draft first round - 19 players total: 4 stars (Hodge, Ball, Judd, Bartel) 7 okay-to-good players (Polak, Hale, Reilly, Dal Santo, Ladson, Kelly, Gram) [And I've been generous in some of these cases] 8 duds (X.Clarke, Sampi, Molan, S.Power, Cole, A.Watson, Brooks, S.Harvey) Pro-rate that against GWS's 25 first rounders and you get 5 stars, 9 ok players and 11 duds. Also a club with too many star players on its list is going to end up under a massive salary cap squeeze; though we've seen clubs like Brisbane Lions and Geelong manage this in the past. Sure 5 stars is scary on that scale, but that's the very very worst case. With the numbers of absolute lemons that have been picked in the first round even in strong drafts, I don't think the GWS list will be as terrifying as some seem to think.

Watch the highlights, please. I thought it would be patently obvious to anyone who knows anything about him at all as to why most of us don't give a rats about having to wait a year.

No way. Far, far too much readable, logical, sensible stuff in cfe's post to be that guy.

Indeed. Wines sounds like the perfect complement to Viney. I'm hopelessly unqualified to talk about juniors, but Wines sounds to me like he'll be a perfect fit on the assumption that Toumpas is one of GWS's three. I'm convinced.

Apparently in WA they start and finish school a year earlier than the rest of the country, meaning Hogan is in year 12 this year. He'll be in Melbourne, as a full time footballer next year just like everyone else on the list. The only thing out of the ordinary is that he'll be ineligible to be picked in the senior side. I stand to be corrected...?