Lord Travis

Well done picking that out of the myriad of facts and evidence put forth in the post. Obvious indeed 🥴 That point aside, the other facts show they're not similar quality or experienced players and compensation shouldn't be comparable. On the Freo death ride, it seems very likely now that we'll finish with pick 4. They've got a bunch of players now being written off for the year or "managed", so it's unlikely they'll win many if any games from here. Their weak percentage helps too. Thanks to Peter Bell as usual. He's so ineffective as a footy manager that one could make a reasonable argument he's working undercover to sabotage the place!

Always good to lock away first round draftees. He's still got more size to put on, but all reports from Casey are he's developing nicely and is seriously capable in the air. Existing prospect for the future. Good onya Jeffo!

It's been discussed a lot on here already, but Frawley and McKay are not comparable and it's braindead that idiots in the media like Barrett keep referring to that compensation as a reference point for McKay. We might have got overs for Frawley, but he was a mile ahead of McKay. McKay is more comparable to Tomlinson at this point. Ben McKay has played 65 games across 7 seasons and is 26 years old soon. Frawley at the same point in his career had played 139 games and was All Australian, and won a premiership with the Hawks at 26. Frawley was also a runner up in our BnF and had multiple top 10 finishes. So more than twice as many games and achieved both individual and team success. McKay is injured more often than not, and when he does get on the park he’s not exactly lighting it up. He’s essentially a less durable and less successful but taller version of Tomlinson at this point. If he didn’t share genes with Harry, he probably wouldn’t be on a AFL list anymore. [censored] he's played less games and achieved less individually than Oscar McDonald did! On output and potential, he's probably worth a 3rd rounder.

We won’t have that many list spots available unless we do a big cull, which seems unlikely. If we can’t package picks up to get a high first rounder (think trading pick 15 and both second rounders for Gold Coast pick 5 as they need more points for 3 academy bids), then we’ll likely trade out both our second round picks for future picks or slight upgrades. We’ll likely take 3 players at drafts. Ideally two first rounders and a late pick for Kynan Brown.

Petracca is 28 next year. Whoever we draft likely won't be having a big impact until Trac is in his 30s and winding down. This is about finding our next Trac, and we're presented with a rare opportunity at the top end of the draft that we likely won't have again for many years to come.

Even in the footage there you can see how aggressive and explosive he is. He makes really good quick decisions with and without the ball. He's well developed physically already and was taking down mature VFL bodies at will with bumps and tackles! He might not be a huge accumulator, but he'll be a quality player with the assets he has. Very exciting prospect. Jeez you'd love him in red and blue... By comparison, Duursma didn't show anywhere near as much in VFL and I have more concerns about how he'll go at AFL level. He is less physically developed, but there's some other question marks for mine around competitiveness, best position, how his body will develop etc. Duursma hasn't shown much as a midfield type and plays more like an undersized marking forward. If we don't go after Reid, Mckercher is the best prospect but not sure he'll be available at our pick 4-5...

I thought with underagers in the VFL they apply and then get assigned to a club so they’re spread across the league. Duursma is assigned to Casey, the same way Reid is assigned to Carlton and Clarry was assigned to Richmond etc. Wouldn’t read into Duursma playing for Casey. It does mean we get an easier look at him though. I’m torn on what to do if we have the choice. Usually I’d just say take multiple players, but Reid is a serious talent and he’s very versatile too. He’s excelled as an inside midfielder dominating clearance. He’s also played at full forward when underdone returning from injury and went well enough there to be named full forward in the All Australian team this year. He’s also played half back in the VFL and did well taking intercept marks and rebounding off half back with his good explosive pace. He could wind up a mid like Petracca, a forward mid like Dusty, a forward like Toby Greene, a damaging half back like Jordan Dawson etc He’s got so much versatility and potential that he’s a unique prospect. He’d also be very marketable off field too. It’s a tantalizing thought him developing under Petracca, Viney and co. He could start as a forward or half back before moving into the guts when the senior players wind down. I can’t decide if it’s worth selling the farm or not. Would love to have him at the Dees obviously though, and if Jason Taylor and recruiters think it’s worth doing then you’d trust them. JT has a great track record with midfielders (not as good with key position types).

Both Brown and TMac are at the end. Both contracted for next year. Expect both to finish up then or retire early. Their bodies are shot sadly. Both great servants of the club and will be fondly remembered premiership players once they hang up the boots.

Rivers is nearly our best midfielder now. Hope we see him permanently in there going forward. Seriously competent inside and outside. What a ripper he is

Losing despite dominating. Let’s hope usual programming doesn’t resume here!

Tomlinson playing really well. I know Petty will be around for a lot longer and be a better player, but right now Tomlinson is clearly better and should remain in the team. Petty needs to earn his spot back when he recovers from injury.

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Not even the best Daicos on the ground tonight, let alone the best player. Great player but not his best game tonight.

Sickening seeing the Pies come back like this. It’s become a self fulfilling prophecy that they can overrun teams in the final quarter. They’re a bog average team for 3 quarters every week.

Let’s just hope for pick 4 now

Makes me sick we lost to the Bombers this year. How the hell did that happen?!

Good changes this week. Petty has been injured and in so-so form all year. Might be fitness and constant changing of role. Tomlinson is fit and in better form as a defender. He’s been dominant at Casey too, so good to reward form instead of reputation. Spargo hasn’t been in great form. Chandler started the year really well but struggled more recently. Hopefully he makes the most of the opportunity this week and hits the scoreboard again.

Sounds pathetic and it's a shame they wasted time and oxygen even thinking about this.

100%. Ben McKay has played 65 games across 7 seasons and is 26 years old soon. Frawley at the same point in his career had played 139 games and was All Australian, and won a premiership with the Hawks at 26. So more than twice as many games and achieved both individual and team success. McKay is injured more often than not, and when he does get on the park he’s not exactly lighting it up. He’s essentially a less durable and less successful taller version of Tomlinson at this point. If he didn’t share genes with Harry, he probably wouldn’t be on a AFL list anymore. It’s blatant corruption if AFL grants first round compo for him.

Not that super IMO. Top end is always good, but from what I’ve read this draft is not deep. Add in the amount of academy and compromised picks and it’s becoming a dud. Last years supposed weak draft is looking like it might be the best for a long time, with heaps of kids already performing well at afl level.

On limited viewing, Sanders looks the goods and would fit into our midfield nicely over the coming years. He seems like a perfect mix of inside and outside with game changing abilities and decent size. If we finish with pick 4, he'd be the perfect target there.

He’s a [censored]. A slug. A worm. A stale fart in an elevator. Sits there with that permanently smug look on his face amongst the ex players like he’s part of the boys club and understands the ins and outs of playing footy. The filter on this site won’t let me go further 😛 He’s always very negative about Melbourne. A few weeks back he was downplaying our 2021 premiership saying we only played a few good minutes of footy and got lucky to win it etc. So disrespectful and completely false. We finished top of the ladder and statistically had the most dominant finals series in over 20 years… but yeah we only played a few good minutes. He’s such a lying piece of tish and a key part of the footy media being trash. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him hiding in Clayton Oliver’s rubbish bin out front of his house in hopes of getting a scoop the waste of skin.

According to Cal Twomey, clubs love McKercher and he has firmed for the second live pick behind Reid, so will likely go before our pick unless we trade up.