Dappa Dan

It's all a bit of a laugh... but it begs the question. Pies first rounder next year. Will be a high pick. If they offered it.... Not that they will. But every player in the league has a price. What would be enough for us to trade Weed. Keeping in mind Tom Lynch (crows) was traded after a few years for steak knives and has turned into a gun.

Ladies and gentlemen, our new whipping boy... (Now Watts is gone)

I would argue there's a few guys who are in the bubble. I love JKH... Always have... but I feel like he's going to find it tough on this list to make a game in the next 5 years.

Ask yourself what would it take for you to put your fears aside that he won't make it? Does he need to come in for the second half of the season and kick 30 goals? Or would 2-3 good games, perhaps kicking 4-5 goals in one or two of them be enough? Townsend played 2 good games at the end of last year before finals... fast forward to the start of 2018 and he's a starting small forward and looks as dangerous as any of the Tigers forwards. If Weed does something like this... comes in for 4-6 games when needed, and performs in just a few, the hounds will be kept at bay.

It don't matter what you say... Suh and Donald. Suh and Donald.... Cox and Jernigan? meh. I'm not saying Cox isn't in Donald's league. And I'm not saying that the DL defines an entire defense. I'm saying what isn't being spoken about is that the Rams weak side of the ball is defense. That's their WEAK side. You can't do much better than Peters, Talib, Donald and Suh... It probably won't even matter who your safeties and LBs are.

... Come on... Why else are we into NFL.

Seriously though... How do you score against a team with those DLs AND those corners. If those spots are 10/10... then what grade do you put on their linebackers and safeties?

My god... When I heard he liked the Eagles I laughed... It's not fair to the rest of the comp having Suh and Cox on the one Dline... Suh and Donald is even MORE unfair.

I thought the same thing with Cox. Do the Rams have the cap space? Do you think maybe recruiting Suh might not lead to greater production? I know I think Cox as the alpha with a rotation of DTs to help out led to great success... why not stick with it.

Nah they offered a second a couple of weeks back, and Eagles set their price at a first. I'd be interested to see everyone's teams they want to see next year after the silly season. Rams would be up there, Watson and the Texans for me. Browns for the drama value. Vikings will be right in the mix... Won't be scared of Eagles, Cousins always carved us up.And 49ers.

All the Qb movement has shown Foles won't get looked at until the preseason when a QB gets hurt somewhere in the league. Yup.

Watkins to the Chiefs as Mahomes' new toy. VERY interesting. Sort of glad to see him out of the conference.

lol Imagine that D now. QBs have to look up at 99... and on the few plays where they don't, he looks downfield at his receivers and there's Ramsey and Talib. Eesh. And their Defense isn't even the Rams strength.

Talib to Rams?!?!?!

Would never take him.

Wow. I'd take him.

Yup. All our Foles back and forth looking like it might come true. TBH, I feel like they're high balling... and will end up trading pick 32 and Foles for something higher up... but only if it gets to that, since right now they need him.

Whoa @Gorgoroth As if Rams needed more help, they get Marcus Peters!

Yeah totally. I wonder too how much the journeyman guys are told they've had a good year based moreso on team success. There's guys like Whitworth who change an entire offense... And then, say in Eagles, there's these corners that come in... very mediocre players who are talked about as the weakness in the team all year, and play really well... and then get lit up by Brady in the superbowl in embarrassing fashion. There's a reason they don't get press... They're not great. With Eagles fans, they love Mills, Robinson and others... but they're still a weakness.

I reckon Woods would be just about the only one anyone would know of outside of Rams fans. And yeah. I reckon Dougie was Robbed. But it doesn't really look to me like an award that you can quantify. A bit like how they give the Oscar to a film and the best director oscar to someone else, which has always seemed odd. Ditto for Brady being MVP but NOT offensive player of the year. I dunno that anyone minds really, cos Gurley is awesome. But it does make these awards seem a bit odd.

Doug was only in his second season. It's a bit debatable whether the being young part should have anything at all to do with it. A bit like winning an Oscar. It's an award given to the best performance within a year, not based on your age at the time. Also, the injuries Eagles copped was a big part. I reckon the big swing vote here was Howie Roseman. They hit on nearly every pick, trade and f/a guy they brought in in the off season. A lot of credit has gone to Howie in bringing in the depth... From memory McVay worked with what he had, besides a couple of pieces like Kupp, Whitworth and Watkins. Jimmy G will be great. @Macca and i were debating over the value of a Foles' trade in the coming months... I made the comparison that if Jimmy can get a mid second rounder in trade, Foles can get more as a superbowl MVP. What's clear now, especially with the money Garroppolo got paid, is that the 49ers got a bargain. A starting guy, franchise guy for a few years at least for a second rounder only. Everything gets easier when you have a franchise QB. Just look at Eagles.

I read that actually as the idea that behind closed doors, Bill's finally seen the end of the line and has given Kraft an ultimatum. I just got beaten by Nick Foles. Gronk's talking retirement. Brady will be done soon. I want out... Kraft says no, we need you, so they meet in the middle. Keep McDaniels and I'll wrap it up in either 12 or 24 months. No more Problems behind the scenes. This is it.

Almost as important as coach is O line. It's really amazing the difference it makes. His big first year he had Peters, Kelce Mathis and others. When he dropped off, everyone was hurt. Same thing with Dak and his protection issues this year, including his blocking RB, not being there.

Yeah. When he was run out of Philly by old Chipper, the narrative was that he was a god botherer, christian boy who didn't have the arrogance and confidence to do it in the big moments. Calling that play like that on 4th down to end the half... I don't know how you ask for a play like that when your name isn't Tom Brady. Is it De Filippo (I hope not, not an Eagle anymore)? Is it Doug?... I just can't figure it. Had a huge, spirited argument with a bunch of mates in fantasy who say Foles is nowhere near a first rounder, possibly is only worth a third. So it seems @Clintosaurus isn't alone. In the end some of them agreed that in a perfect world he COULD get a first, which is probably true... but that in the end he won't get one. Interestingly, this took place BEFORE Jimmy G got his record deal. The guy won 5 meaningless games to close out a losing season. Admittedly, with no help around him. Foles did that for a whole season in his first year, and he just went bang, bang, bang in playoffs... and these guys try to tell me that saying he's worth a first rounder is "emotional." How you can say that outrageous amount of money ISN'T emotional, but confidence in a player from winning a superbowl IS... Is a bit beyond me. Interestingly... I'll take him as a backup next year, sure. But I lean towards him being traded. Move on Foles and have them soak up all his cap. Let's low ball and say we get a couple of seconds or maybe a second and a third. We can move on Blount and Smith, maybe Celek retires... and then the guys we bring in aren't scrubs from round 7. And with enough money moved out, can even find a free agent to replace someone like Smith. Maybe a LB.

Yeah. It's interesting. Where do you place him in comparison to some others around the league right now... Obviously not including guys like Brees Brady, Ben... they're nearing the end... But in terms of some other guys like Mariotta, Winston, Goff, Wentz Yet to get their first big payday. Every one of those has done more I reckon, besides maybe Winston. How will that shake out? Massive implications. Every blessed second. That's an all pro centre right there. Fantastic. How are you feeling as a Rams fan? I have been a bit distracted over the last weeks, but Coach, offensive AND Defensive player of the year. And almost every special teamer in the all pro was a Ram.