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beelzebub

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Everything posted by beelzebub

  1. I don't What's more useful to the club.. It's classically.. a bird in the hand or two in the bush ??? Dees aren't taking two " could be/ might be " picks alone . We have Tracc... he goes NOWHERE without our blessing. Who knows ... he might like the new Melbourne 🤔🤷‍♂️
  2. And it's only Friday... Lots of fun and games still to play out. Melbourne at start of trade week.... I don't believe it has , nor should change .. Overview Melbourne list boss Tim Lamb stated that while Christian Petracca is contracted for four more years, the club will only entertain a trade if it's in Melbourne's best interest . He has said they will only deal if a quality offer is made that will improve the club's future premiership prospects. It is understood that a potential deal with the Gold Coast Suns or Adelaide Crows would require the interested club to "pay up". Melbourne's stance: The club is adamant that Petracca will be a Demon next year unless a trade is agreed upon that benefits Melbourne significantly. Trade conditions: The club is looking for a "quality offer" that will improve the list, with list boss Tim Lamb stating, "If someone wants him, come and talk to us – and pay up". Potential suitors: Both Gold Coast and Adelaide are interested in Petracca, but the Demons want the Suns to get more involved in negotiations due to their stronger draft hand. Alternative: If a suitable trade is not reached, Petracca is expected to remain with the club and play out his four-year contract. Stay true Dees .
  3. If you want to g tive GC leverage... stay at the table. Want to take away their power, leave. They think they are in control. They're not. Tracc might think.he can just walk, he can't. What you do is reset the 'discussions'. We actually DON'T need to do the trade. I'm not guessing how you negotiate. I've some experience. The first rule is to have a firm grasp of what you want and what you're prepared to offer. The second and only other rule is , stick very close to that or dont do a deal. Very important if you aren't doing the negotiations yourself make sure whoever is has a backbone.
  4. He's still there huh.....
  5. What were they thinking... ?? Let's just ease the boat off the slip 😉 Ohhh... bugger.... someone saw us oops/not-oops 😉 (GC certainly weren't going to )
  6. It is now ...imho.. a classic... lesser of two evils or the garnering of the greater opportunity. Do you forego the chance to recruit a certified gun, an epitome of a franchise-player to retain a good ( who could be great ) player ? Which is worse ? Losing Humphrey or losing Petracca ?? Now I chose the word lose specifically. The greatest motivator for the human.... is FEAR, not GAIN. We mortals do not like to lose out. GC will have a lot more explaining to do if they let Tracc slip than should they allow Humphrey to go-home for "reasons" The framework for the "sell", for the trade , is right there. All Bailey has to do is... Press....
  7. Not a throw away point imho. We have been s̶t̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ watching him for some time now !!
  8. Go Dees ...
  9. Just this guy wandering around...
  10. Why ?? I won't boo him...but not likely to applaud the opposition either. Not just for the hell of it. I'm sure he won't be offended.
  11. My gut feel is either Humpty comes home or we do. It's deal or no deal. Might be Club prepared to hang on to Tracc.
  12. So much else to do...... Hmmm...
  13. Very interesting... you've gone to town and back defending Oliver , which is your privilege. You then offer up this morsel. The application of this tenet when discussing Oliver's actions to his mates, rest of team , indeed tge club as a whole might of itself be the best example, if not definition , of IRONY I've come across for some time. Thankyou
  14. I think its time for the Club to put its big biy suit on. Pack up the papers, close the brief case and leave this meeting for now. Obviously GC aren't taking it seriously. We dont have to let Tracc go. We made it abundantly clear they had to sell us the deal we aren't handing out lollies ( unlike down the road at Homebush... ) Gold Coast need to do better. So id be giving them a ... yeah nahh just at the moment.... get back to us if you want to do this properly. Im dead serious. Walk away Melbourne
  15. Part time 🤔 3 days a week ought to be fine ... 🙂 😉
  16. Woohoo... yep.. just... woohooo
  17. We totally get it. These are strange times. As you rightly suggest the truth is somewhere in there amongst it all. I doubt anyone's laughing.
  18. Poor Humpty ...but a shell of his old self
  19. Or as us old farts would say...they're dribbling 💩
  20. It too occuredto me would Weagles be tempted. If 7/8 .. me I'd like 2 and change... something towards White or such. I still think were too short changed if that's all CAC is offering .
  21. I fully get how some, as yourself, feel about this and Oliver. I do agree about him being a mess. I can't concur that he's OUR mess. And that goes to the heart of the predicament. He's his own mess. He's an adult. ( according to some ) I know some won't agree with me ( that's novel ) and certainly won't concur these sentiments. He's a very lucky lad. He is without doubt a very talented footballer. But he's a flawed genius in being so. If only half the tales are true then he's been the epitome of high maintenance. He's commanded a high coin. That of itself isn't a concern ( if returned in kind ) . His role is to play as team member not as some head billing star of a show. He owes it to his employer to do what's reasonably asked. The proper reaction to being asked to change his role is to comply if its within ability. If he thinks it isn't then he ought to think how he can and discuss concerns with his mentors and instructors. This isn't something the club has set out to do. Over the years tge club, and fellow team mates, especially his captain have gone out of their way and way above duty to look out for a mate. That's commendable and really totally unecessary. You have to wonder about the calibre of character that someone who you would think owes so much for chaperoning his career would return the favour by abandoning any moral debt and buggering off. Some will.cry ... but... but.. but we forced him out. No we may have forced his hand but he , and only he is responsible for his decisions. So whilst I certainly understand your position Jaded, indeed that of anyone who is essentially grieving I dont share it. I really feel for the likes of Max . Clarrys not perfect. Who among us is. I fervently hope anyone with problems gets the help they need but this doesn't in my view excuse his behaviour. I'll miss the Clarry of old.... couldn't give a rats about the current version. Go Dees
  22. Shock, horror... oh myyyyy gaawwwwdd Where did that come from ?? 🙄🥴
  23. Ridiculous if we do. 2 picks is bad enough Still be looking to walk away at this point and let them stew.

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