beelzebub
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Only 76 pages to go...come om Deelanders !!
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Two predictions: 1: Demented souls outpouring bile as Dees announce a trade that meets with practically no Dee supporters expectations ( unless you're like me and guage by outcomes, overall, not swapping marbles or footy cards ) 2: nobody will give a flying @#$& when we hold up the cup in a year or two.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Every year
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Must be for you as for all your chest beating and broughahas you seem oblivious to the point. You don't know what cards the club holds...or what it has half a hand on via other tentative deals but it's all about those magic numbers You presume what certain picks will garner in other trades then call prematurely on something not even done yet. Trade period is like playing darts with a revolving board. It's a fluid environment where very little is fixed.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
There aren't many of us 55 l ol
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
This was ,most likely, all it ever was. All this silliness about pick this or that is really irrelevant. If you get what you want/need then youve won. What path taken doesn't matter. Why is this simple notion so hard for many.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Funny how so many are fixated on relieving their anxiety as opposed the quality of outcome. It's not about getting it done in the next 5 mins. It's about getting it done within the available time. Make it so Dees
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
The whole post made far too much sense. Many won't get it. Many don't WANT to get it. It plays with the sensibilities of some to tamper with idea that what is supposed , might not be after all. This is exactly the metric that the club uses. The MFC is seeking to address issues about balance and game style/plan. It looks holistically at as situation and has an idea of redress. That's where it differs from most here who cling fanatically to the emotional investment they have of players. The club will do what it needs to. It's about outcomes. Freo is about outcomes too. Problem is they're that stuffed they're trying to accomplish too much in one period and have unrealistically put values on things.( Both ways ) But it is what it is. You play the cards you have. There IS trade next year but we need to achieve certain things THIS trade to further our progress next season. These are the real parameters of trade not the nonsense spouted by some. Go Dees...get it done.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
World of difference
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Freo didn't come to our door. They went to Jesse's. Big difference. Thing is WE own that door. But curiosity is we've thrown it open and they've gone into hiding. A lot about this makes no sense....if you accept the often trotted out scenario. So obviously very little is what it looks like.
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Aaron vandenBerg not going - signs a new deal!!!
Welcome back...well you never really went
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I'm of the inclination that someone's hand has been forced. I've no problem with that if it suits the club. Like your good self OD I observe a overwhelming groupthink from many as to the worth and benefits of retaining Jesse. And then there's this somewhat opposite script playing out before us. Now I would suppose the club is best situated to know what's what and how to proceed. So why is the MFC pursuing a course so different to what many here would prescribe ? Why from some quarters come suggestions Freo isn't all gooey and rah rah as it was ? Freo chasing Jesse since he got here....now they can have him...they get butterflies and wobbly knees ? Bits to this puzzle we don't know. And we wait. I think he'll go home. I think the club will be satisfied. I think many will disatisfied but I think that's only because their metric isn't the club's.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
My bad...mea culpa Of course they will...of course
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
There's the public fodder statement by the club. That's fine but it won't be real pass line. Am sure the club will accept a deal irrelevant of poster's views...if it meets what the club actually wants as an outcome.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Hogan might not be much more .. It's about now.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Didn't mean to imply you did. Just piggybacking off that 'news' Well...the 5 is a start. I noted elsewhere there most likely be something with it ( of course ) I still lean to a player. Intriguing.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I'd look hard at that...
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Would we accept those same picks ?
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
You sir are a rare one. Very few get this
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
A little Birdy ( for the benefit of @sue et all ) deposited a rumour my way that the Neale deal could yet take all weekend to nut out. Wouldn't leave us a lot of time. This I'm informed is purely as result of Freo living in some parallel dimension where things are not as everyone else assesses !! Hopefully some sense enters this arena. I'm not expecting any news for or from us about Jesse any time soon. Will be very glad if this is wrong..or changed. I think others have hit the nail on head. This is as much about Freos new hierarchy as it is real values. Memo to Freo....get your shlt together !!
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Farewell Dom Tyson
Making the changes because we only made the Prelim. Changes get us a flag
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Why ? His job is to trade. That requires only telling anyone what's required. Not us. We'll know when we do. My life isn't going to be any different whether I know anything today..or in a week. Will yours ? Let him do his job ..his way.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Steve...some people DO know something. Dare I say some know more than they dare comment !! Is there a lot of BS...for sure A good panner can spot the gold and gems
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Maybe.. maybe not...but I like your thinking
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Yes am aware. Hence the reference to his management. I just think Dees are trying to wrest back as much of this into their control as possible. As was mentioned somewhere by someone in media ( apologies as just couldn't give a fig to read the byline ) ...that players have TOO much power. They're entitled to say...but it's about a team.