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Really..Wiseblood. .need o spell it out.. no they cant be dropped. Thats the point. Dropping out of form players used to be standard practice.

Are they likely to be dropped ? There's your answer

League exists on telly north of the Murray..Actual gameday attendences are laughable.

There is something to this. I agree Our culture...well....no idea what it is tbh. As a club, i often feel like a punch drunk boxer.

Of course we went to win....that might well have been the name on the Desto board...but there was practically no petrol in the tank . That in and of itself left us vulnerable., esp as they had plotted our obliteration. Desire is one thing. .ability another. We'll just disagree on the rest. Cheers

They pulled apart a half dead turkey. But yes they certainly knew how to make a meal of it. Granted

To blame it on the PF is a bit like saying its the bullet from a firing squad that ended the prisoners life. It's really about the journey to that point and in our case how we managed to be a band of dead men walking even before the first bounce that day. So in some ways... a coach saying they didnt take anything away from that game is I suppose correct. What is there to learn from a thrashing like that...other than one simple thing. Don't get yourself into that position. Here's that 'by design" issue again. We got into that mess all by ourselves really. We plotted the course to that game...but we just weren't really paying attention to all the metrics. In many ways West Coast didnt win that game as we absolutely LOST it...before the bounce. We still lose much of our football by the very way we go about things. These are all by direction. Nothing really happens by chance The players don't just rock up on the day and ad-lib ,though any casual , or even we seasoned ones, may be forgiven for thinking they do just that. No, they are enacting a series of instructions. They're just not good ones, though they are goodwins !!

an interesting hypothesis..actually it is. I reckon though had we made the GF...it might have been 1988 all over again

The PF was the straw that broke the demon's back Thats the significance of the PF. That so many players went under the knife is imho directly a result of many being ridden into the ground by a playing style that simply cant be done for 100 mins. we were worn out by that game....literally (that is to say ...by that game we were worn out...fried )

@praha Nothing is a quick fix at Melbourne.

Lol Mate the context of the Op was we'd beaten f all in the top 8 h/a simples We hadnt We all got very giddy and blousey winninf a few on the trot when Sim9n said engage hyperdrive. ..until we died Reality sucks doesnt it

Yummy yummy Fruit salad Seriously Pen St D , what's your out for this year Think carefully

Michael rowed the boat ashore...

I give up They are intent on bastardising what's left of our game Shoot Gil, shock Hocking..slash the nuts of anyone that comes close to the game THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. ..[censored] OFF

Not as cryptic as some might suppose

We haven't the worst list Why do you think many of our ,possibly best players , aren available ?

Did you miss H/A ??

I blame Watts

Actually OD...having read of Smith I'm more inclined to believe Coaches make players...or rather...they determine their careers.

@Rusty Nails why do you think those players arent available ??? ?

Do we...need the $$ that much ?? Get rid of a few nice to have but not absolutely required ppl. But leaner...get meaner Get clever ffs Melbourne. ..bunch of fools

Smokey...there are indeed many valid reasons. That is to say...what has happened had a real cause and a real outcome. Much of this imho isn't ror debate. Where many choose different paths is cause of these reasons. For mine nearly every single facet is traceable to what the FD determined was its way forward. There's that 'design' conotation...again...in my view. What's happened has happened. We now need to devise a better plan, a better way of getting that plan to be effective. Its arguable as to whether those in charge atm...are the best to do this.

Aren't we all !!!

The nicey nicey way ..if actually done. And it gets you NOWHERE The whole point of kicking up a stink and playing the game in the media s Eddie or Scott or Jeff etc would is to put that idiot Dill Gil on his back haunches and put the league on notice we simply aren't going to accept this. Thats how you do it.

what other club would sit back ?? You reckon Hawks? Filth ? Windy Hill ? Puddycats ? Norf ? I doubt it ..Demons.....for sure. If there is anything you could safely put money on is we do NOTHING