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I'm actually enjoying this thread, most people are respecting each other.

Some good ideas there Deespencer, I like Lienert as well.

Yeah I've heard the same things. Very highly rated and obviously made a huge impact when he returned there. That would be something.

What do you realistically get by trading him? Unless you trade with a later pick to maybe get into the 50s somehow?

Chook is back! Hope this is our Neil Balme back to Richmond moment.

Absolutely. It sucked watching it but it was a tremendous win and with everything going on the job was probably even harder. Match winning players in that side who stood up when the game was there to be won. Fully deserved.

Can definitely see an unprecedented pathway to the grand final at least much like 2018.

I share your views Dees189227. I just can't cop Collingwood, it's non-negotiable and they are the no.1 team that needs to exit the finals prontissimo.

Bit hit and miss that one

What brew are you having?

Really enjoying this game! Some good old fashioned biffo.

Big start for the Pies

The look on some of their faces, they couldn't get it through their pea brains that they had lost.

Umpiring is a joke

Ah, yay?

What a garbage attack that debate was. Everyone has gone crazy about Biden telling Trump to shut up but the most personal remark for me was Trump's "There's nothing smart about you Joe". To Biden's credit he'd prepared very well and looked down the barrel to address the American people, Trump stuffed it up a bit by interrupting all the time. He probably would have gotten a lot further letting Biden talk and eventually tripping up.

Seahawks, Ravens, Bills

If he came cheap then fair enough, I'm not totally convinced he can be the guy some people here are suggesting but out of the older heads it wouldn't be the worst get. I also wouldn't be targeting Smith if it was purely for experience, surely that role can be covered by hanging onto Jones, yeah ok totally different player and elite runner but not totally sold yet.

Honestly I'd take a late 3rd rounder for him right now. Runs more than the boundary umpire and although not a brilliant kick not a shocking one but just doesn't get it enough.

I'd keep him on over ANB.

Wow what's with these retirements lately?

Well we knew this was coming, cue the guy saying he'll provide good disposal out of the back half and a cool experienced head. No thanks.

An amazing football game but I couldn't agree more Gorg. I don't know how much more Williams could have released from the initial mutual contact. I don't usually like to bring games down to one call but it's hard not to on this one. Brutal call

Absolutely, if you want to meet the absolute gutter of supporters of any footy club head to the Facebook pages. I do feel sorry for this poor woman who is probably going through a fair bit herself right now. It would just be great if she knew the majority of Melbourne fans here while disappointed it didn't work out are really concerned about what is happening with Harley right now and dearly want to see him back on track and ready for the next phase.

I don't really know how to say this or what the answer is given it's astounding in the first place, but we need our players to know each other on field a lot better and know their games. The majority of this list has been together 4 years now and the number of times we lack cohesion and handball to a guy flat footed, burn an open man making a run through the middle and kick short to the flank and either all fly or all stay down in the forward line... It literally looks like a team playing together for the first time or one that has had massive list changes and hasn't gelled yet. A lot on here have said lately that our guys tend to play individually at times and not as a team and it's right, how often do we need to see footage of how MFC players rushed their kick without knowing where teammates were. You need to know who the guys are around you and aspects of their game but right now it seems like they don't really pay much attention to that. Hearing this stuff about how Freo spent the break really honing in on their strategy and how they can drill it in, almost like they were studying for an exam. Then you hear T-Mac saying how we were really just doing the odd Zoom meeting to check in, and see how guys were etc. It says a lot and they need to solve it.