DangerousDemon

Thank you red leg my thought in a nutshell

But he is an assistant coach already why would he sign on at Melbourne when he can apply for a senior coaching role in 2010. The general process is an assention toward a senior coaching role and noting the fact that he is currently employed by Hawthorn this would be a regression of his career I suggest.

So what do you suggest mate we sack the coach mid contract, incur another debtor then begin rebuilding again from scratch with a new coach and staff. if we need Hardwick so much then why was he not eh first choice when the recruitment process began for the coaching position. You say he played so many AFL games well Neil Craig didnt play any and he is a fine coach. I agree with the previous poster how about you think about what you are saying before you go our and make such frivolous comments about a concept which was settled two years ago now. You do have a cheek calling the previous poster little minded when your own post lacks credibility and merit itself. Cheerio

Oh wow how insightful great work hotshot

Well the equation for you is simple isn't it mate if you dont like what I have to say then dont read it and more to the point dont comment on it. There are a number of posters on here who do like reading about this type of information. Why should they be moderated by you or anyone else who thinks they have the right of passage to comments on others behalf. I did tell you all about Mcleans injury and people responded with " If that is true" WTF. If you have nothing better to do than post demeaning comments when people attempt to provide useful information, picking out sections of peoples posts for potential critique I think you should join the bowls club or something mate you need something to occupy yourself. You would have no idea who posts on this site Dean Bailey could post under an alias and all you negative based posters would still criticize him. Truth is you dont know so why criticize those who do.

Look mate I could not give a rats ass if they have a crack at me for straightening out some of the misconception on this site about particular players. In the coming weeks I intend to post a few more home truths. So in the interim if they feel like being negative go right ahead. I have continually said that CC and DB have a great plan for the club going forward. It particularly amuses me when I watch dean at his press conference every week field questions from the media with a smirk on his face with aplomb. He knows what he is doing mate, make you mistake about it.

what mate it was me who posted it 7 weeks ago!!!

Hello posters, Several months ago I referred to the fact that as the result of my link to, and knowledge of the club that Brent Moloney and Brock Mclean were both playing under duress this season. Please read below a quoted line from CC our football manager, who incidentally told me of these injuries at a local football game in the country. "Brock McLean did no speed training over summer because of his injury and hasn't done a pre-season in two years. He will play very good football again next year". Now based on this information provided by Chris himself in a recent article published in the Adelaide times and kindly contributed for view/criticism from the lovely folk over at Demonology could we please consider the following with regard to player bashing on this site. I understand that the majority of posters on Demonland are not privy to the position I and indeed some others are in that we have at times a close link to the club. Therefore when contributers such as this share their knowledge about the club it would be really pleasant if others cease to blabber and heed to. If you do not have any knowledge apart from the footy record and local papers into the internal machinations of the football club please refrain from critique of opinion of this sort. I will again for the people who missed the last post reiterate its contents: During the match I saw Brent Moloney grab at his hamstring and he may not play this week. was the original quote. Well actually Brent did play which was remarkable seeing that 2 days before the match he was still icing his hamstring and had done no running. NOW Brent Moloney is still carrying this hamstring injury, is still having it managed by the club fitness staff, and still may miss a match to get the injury right. To quantify a statement by a fellow posters previously regarding the physical output of Brock Mclean Brock Mclean looks like he is running in sand This is the case because he has been carrying an injury all season, however for the betterment of the club and because he is reportedly as stubborn as an Ox Brock has been pushing through with pain killing injections. The reason he cant run is that he is physically spent and has no physical exertion left to give. This is by no means a criticism, chide or even as one other poster has attributed to me in the past a belittlement of others posters. Rather it is information which needs to be considered by every posters who uses this site . For conformation of an injury please look further than the papers, have a look out on the ground. Really if you were injured would you report it to Geeks like Huchison or Sheehan I think not. Just remember that players play under considerable duress week in and week out and to be critical without qualification or knowledge is to be a little premature. The fact that people were asking for Mclean to be traded makes me sick really. Thanks.

Its because we cant get a damn ticket to the place mate thats why were hate it

I for one will not be there plainly because of the poor ticketing arrangements. I hope those of you who do attend really get behind the team WITHOUT GETTING IN A FIGHT with the neanderthal Essendon supporters. GO DEES FALL FLAT ON YOUR FACE BOMBERS ps Good luck LJ for those of you who havnt seen him please dont be demoralized if he doesn't get a kick and becomes overawed by the whole experience of playing in front of 35 thousand intelligent and ill-informed idiots. THE KID IS STAR!!!

Haha well said mate I agree with every utterance here as i have stated previously i response to such posts if we carried out all the suggestions made on this site we would have a perfect side.

Yeah thats right its sold, but to whom I cant imagine they would fill the whole ground with supporters from both teams. I tell you where the tickets have gone its to Essendon members. All the tickets come with their membership so if they feel like going to the football they have a ticket on level one to see Essedon or however the neanderthals out there spells its these day win. So it basically says stuff the Melbourne supporters, if they want to come and watch, they have to sit on level three. You can hit me with all the superlatives imaginable about Docklands the facts remain it is not football supporter friendly. The Docklands caters for cooperates and muppet Essendon supporters who mind you would have no concept of football if it reared up and bit them on the behind. So I put this to all of you on this post who have attempted to defend the AFL's supposed ticket allocation process. How are Essendon going to pay for the debt they incur from this game? There is no way in hell they will get 30 thousand Essendon supporters to the game. How about Melbourne supporters? will they get any? who wants to sit on level three and watch the football with a telescopic lens. We never hear that Essendon may loose money on this game ohh no way dont say anything about the mighty Bombers AFL no no no. The new conception of an national competition has basically dissolved any sense of allegiance struggling football clubs had accumulated. In a bygone era teams feared playing Melbourne at the MCG, Loathed going to Arden St to play North Melbourne and trepidation was rife when teams made the trip to the Whitten Oval to play Footscray. I can recall standing next to my father as a child at old suburban grounds the chill radiating down the back of your spine and the fire in a 44 gallon drum smoldering away in the next bay across. The most imperative thing of going to opposition grounds was not coming away with the four points, but rather making it out alive. I will never forget the anxiety of those days as a child when bombers supporters once said to me " Your not going anywhere you stay and watch the bombers win" when we went to leave at 3 quarter time. But when I fly past Victoria Park on the train on my way to the G every Saturday nostalgia is apparent and I wish we still had one of the old suburban grounds left to attend. Instead some now now attend Docklands drinking beer which tastes like fermented urine, buy food which costs an hours work and sit abreast of token supporters who support teams not for their knowledge of their team, its players or its history, but because it's colors look good, the players are " Sooo good looking" or a 30 thousand people signed their pets up as members lets do it too. Gone are the days where larikens drove people to the point of hirlaity with comments at the football yelled high pitch to the breadth of the stands and which augured well for an entertaining day at the football. Why is this so people because we are a national competition and who cares if capitalism kills what is left of the old VFL. The main objective is putting two teams in Sydney when once cant stand on its own two feet fiscally.It is also putting another team on the Gold Coast when another took the best part of 15 years to become viable. Why?

some of those players will not be here next year

Thanks for that mate its the same deal as always they told me that there were no tickets available in any section not even level three. I fail to see how the whole ground could be full for this match. its the same for the Adelaide game every year.... not good enough in my book I don't care about the regulations it is an AFL membership and seating should be better. I understand what you are saying but this agreement just prevents noble supporters from going to games.

Doggo old chum we cant get tickets mate thats why we cant go if they could fit us into their tight little agreement then maybe we might turn up. I for one do not want to sit up on level three and have to pay for that right when I spend $650 dollars a year for a membership. I sat in the rain last week for the whole second half, and I turn up every week. I am not going to the bubble dome therefore am I week. if you keep posting abrasive comments like this you wont find much support on here.

Great post mate well done on highlighting our player turnover in the previous few years. I dont think Johnson will go though they like him as a backup ruckman.

I agree it is crap and something needs to be done about it quite frankly. When you pay any amount of money per year ( me for an AFL membership) and others for other affiliated memberships you should be able to support your club in decent seats. This is exactly why teams like North melbourne, Western Bulldogs and Melbourne struggle to make a return from matches. The poor stadium deals, crap seating and preferential seating arrangements for other more powerful and financially viable clubs mean that we cant go and support our clubs.

Okay Rogue thats interesting so what do you suggest I do. Is it like all the other games at the MCG?. I rang ticketmaster and they told me that all reserved seat AFL member access had been taken on level one. if I am able to walk up via a guest pass I will do that but they told me I could not do that as well.

This is just a stupid situation reoccurring situation which typifies the arrogance or the Essendon Football Club to think this game will be totally sold out. I have a friend who works for ticket master and she told me that Essendon AFL members receive an email offering them tickets a week before other supporters do. I assume this is to entice more or their un intellectual, moronic and bias supporters into the members area to mingle with the population of supporters who already qualify as neanderthals. There are 5 games fully ticketed by the EFC each year and chances of getting a good seat at that game are minimal to none if you havnt already booked by this date. Absolutely shocking favoritism by the AFL for if the game was played at the MCG as it was last year the crowd would be larger, the atmosphere better and the standard of the game higher. The AFL needs to wake and begin giving our supporters a decent place to sit other than on Level 3 which mind you is also ticketed and you have to books reserved seats for. I cant understand how, they propose to sell out the entire AFL member section of Etihad stadium when our side is going at half rat power and they are just beginning to become resurgent and ascending the ladder. Interested to get other posters views on this for in MHO the best way for us all to se it is to go to the local pub. The atmosphere is going to be better there than at Etihad with a;; Essendon supporters yelling at the tops of their lungs.

You are right mate and this was a huge issue against Collingwood where we did not have a centre clearence at all in the first quarter. This aspect was remedied a little in the second term however the stats will still indicate that we were smashed in that area. Rucks play an imperative role in centre clearence efficiency, however against the pies it was our lack of willingness to win the hard ball and their advantage in intent which really dictated the play. I feel we have the artilary there to make the clearance statisitc looks a lot better than what it is currently however the application and output and sometimes lacking. By this I mean that certain players tend to loaf a little when there is no sight of a win. Against Collingwood after the first three goals went to their advantage our attack on the ball diminished considerably.I thinjk it is a mental rather than a physical thing because we have realtivly tough bodies in there in mclean, Sylvia and Jones.

Like the avatar mate I dont think it would even be a month ago you were bagging hell out of Sylvia good one!

I have noted a lot of negative comments written in recent times on this forum regarding the lack of correlation between our high draft pics and form. An interesting analogy to note when considering the principles of draft order is the initial machinations of the IQ or intelligence Quotient pioneered by Spearman. Originally the IQ was created as a means of assessing which students would succeed in academia or had great academic potential. Conversely it was also coined to assist teachers and educators in identifying which students in the general population may struggle. The most pertinent point here to consider is that IQ theories as are a number of other well known theories of supposed geniuses around the world only GUIDES as to how a person MAY progress academically. There are a number of underlying mitigating factors which may impede ones progress in achieving what is defined as their academic potential. Some include the following which can parallel to the world of AFL football: Social factors How the child integrates with significant others in its own world, how it makes friends and what it does when outside of school. Mental factors There may be significant mental hurdles in a child life which impede them cognitively in terms of their aptitude and access to their own innate potential Family factors How the child integrates with their own family environment and the relations they have with other family members. Now take into account that when drafted our junior TAC cup stars are children themselves whilst considering the following piece of mathematics. When a persons IQ is calculated they are given what is called a percentile score. The percentile score gives them a rank of where they sit in relation to other students world wide or even in their own country ( Australia). So we can say that if a child is given an IQ score of in the second percentile this equates to 2 percent of the population being more intelligent than them at that STAGE of their development. And again an IQ score in the 70th percentile would mean that 70 percent are indeed better than them. Now remember the mitigating factors listed above lets now talk about AFL football for a second. Every year in each AFL draft potential draftees are interviewed and assessed by a raft of professionals including psychologists, physiologists and doctors in order to asses their POTENTIAL to achieve their best. However as we see with injury, family troubles and social interaction of many footballers this only acts as a mere rank of their talent. James Hird was given a rank or draft number in the mere 60's when he was drafted but that number was not accurate enough to asses his potential to reach his bets which we know is exceptional. At a time when so much impetus is put upon draft rankings, order and potential talent consider this when looking at our own crop of new draftees. Logically we could say that based on rankings Jack Watts would be a better footballer than Liam Jurrah or do we? maybe not necessarily. Liam may develop at a greater rate than Jack, may have had his time socializing and having fun and be ready to knuckle down and have a go at the AFL life style. Jack in turn may not have experienced life quite yet and may be lead astray like Travis Johnstone was by the lure of copious amounts of money in a young mans hands. The real question we have to ask ourselves when looking at these draftees is so they need time to develop to reach their full potential? If we base our questions on the IQ system applied to AFL football we could say indeed a firm yes. if we concentrate on pure AFL draft rankings we may say no. The question fellow posters is are you indeed ready top sit through the journey in order to find out what our draftees haver to offer?

Thats exactly right mate and again people go off half cocked because we didnt win 7 out of 11 games or what they deemed as expectable. Seriously pull your heads in people what do you expect this is an example of the juvenile and ill informed crap that Collingwood supporters were yelling in my ear all Monday. If you claim to be any better than Collingwood supporters pull your socks up and start supporting the club.

If we put all the suggestions together of what people think this club needs for the journey going forward we would have what is called the perfect footballer. However hate to rain on the parade here one of this kind does exist. Therefore how about a suggestion? How bout we stop whining about what the club hasn't got and begin to talk about what we do have. If you have close look at the players the club drafted in the most recent pool there are none who fit the bill of what you were just asking for. So unless you wish to be playing the same broken record for the next 10 years I suggest you go to the shop, look on the shelf and pick a new artist because the one you are playing at the moment isn't quite in the top ten really. And people et tired of artists who p;ay the same old whining tune. Thanks thats all.

So whats the solution to that mate get another coach, start the cycle again? Was he out coached in the first quarter no he was not, were the players second to the ball and lacking intent HELL YES Get of his back mate seriously how bout pinpointing some senior players for criticism rather than the coach.