Bates Mate

So badly out of form, surely 5 mins in the midfield to try get him into it, over the past 6 weeks wouldn't been when a try!?

Watching channel 7 . Are we even playing?

It's a disgrace

Dud bounce should've been called back

Agree VFL intensity is easy off AFL. I was trying to make a point that dropping jvr to the VFL isn't because he is being tested and that at his age and stage of development and his attitude would be exerting just as much energy.

No doubt players can be managed in the VFL. Just don't think jvr is and he would be working just as hard as he would in the AFL on worse grounds

VFL isn't a rest and a 20 year old with jvr's attitude and work ethic dosent know how to not go 100% in a game of footy. In many ways VFL can be more taxing on the body

Because he hasn't got nearly enough of the pill this year

He played VFL so not resting though

Why have 2 genuine two forwards when you can have one and a resting ruckman who hasn't played forward his whole career and another who can't kick straight and get in the way of the genuine forwards

Outs are correct, Spargo in seems to lack selection integrity

No idea. Ask the talk ask summer was getting more players though the midfield and looked great in pre season and round 1

Viney by the length of the Flemington straight , best . Backline held up well. Rest forgettable or were memorable for the wrong reasons

Wasn't the reason we lost, competed well in the conditions and actually lead to the ball and bought it to ground. Need him in with jvr. Max and Grundy resting forward is a big issue. Don't lead and we just bomb it to them

Haven't been Melbourned yet. Get them in. bowey , Salem anyone with skill forward please. BBB did ok considering the conditions want to see him with jvr and gawn Grundy leading to positions our main forwards are not. It's basic forward play.

We are desperate for some skill and nous.

Add Chandler , Salem, gawn , Grundy etc

Class, unusually beats grunt eventually

It's driving me nuts. Used to be hard at it but last month or so been soft

Matty Whelan

Not sure who for. Petty wasn't ready and never should've been in but do you drop him ? Clearly the preferred option and been a better player over the past few years

BBB,Melk, schace , Laurie Or jvr, Smith,anb, Chandler

I say it every week. Drives me insane our forwards very rarely lead up to the ball, are largely stationary calling for a long kick over the back or to a pack

100% can't win in September with those two as your main talks. Get BBB in for starters

Long to kozzi 3 out isn't going to work