Demon Tragic

Hmmm . . . there must be a moral somewhere in there about viagra . . . it just eludes me at the moment

Cuz must have been really stiff

lol.... great work

youre right , i have done no research on the matter nor do i intend to. I am a fan of the game and stand by what i said. `It was a disgrace`. Twelve weeks is not nearly enough for a three time offender.

This penalty was agreed upon by the AFL, the AFLPA and experienced drug experts. Any changes to this would most likely see the AFLPA withdraw thier support for out of competition testing for illicit substances all together. At least with this policy, we ARE testing for it.

So you would have us believe passing out in a car due to overdose is not bringing the game into disrepute.

No charges were laid in this instance. Cousins was charged, leaves the AFL without a leg to stand on for that charge.

Helping the player after hes hooked is `the worlds best practice`. This is when you tell me his club doctor is notified after the first strike . Clearly this isnt working .

The AFL conducts numerous courses and educational seminars for thier players about the dangers of illicit substances, as do the AFLPA. In my book, that would constitute as a great form of preventative action. The club doctor is notified only after the second strike. The fact that this incident casued the player to register his third strike would suggest that the policy is headed in the right direction.

If Travis`s family and friends were notified earlier about his useage he may not be where he is now. The current system is flawed. I dont care what the players have agreed to. Lots of players would try their luck as i have mentioned how it is possible.

This point I agree with you on. I think on the first strike the player must nominate a relative, either parent or legal spouse, to also be informed. This way the player at least has the immediate support of his family to help him through what could be a very big problem. I think this part of the policy shoudl be immediately tweaked.

12 weeks is a disgrace. AFL HQ keep shifting the goalposts to suit themselves.

Obviously you haven't researched this!

The standard and prescribed penatly for a third positive drug test is and always has been 12 weeks. The AFL haven't changed any policy, penalty or goal posts! This penalty has been agreed to by the players association and identified as the best way to treat the player with a view to rehabilitation. This policy is world's best practise and is now being implemented in many sports worldwide. The AFL should be commended for the faith they have shown to this policy in the face of stinging criticism from the media. The fact of the matter is, if this policy were to change, the AFLPA would withdraw thier support and recreational drug use would go on unchecked and untreated.

Ben Cousins was initially suspended by the West Coast Eagles for 16 weeks whilst he sought treatment for a self confessed drug addiction. The AFL saw no need to intervene as thier standard penalty would have been 12 weeks and WCE had exceeded this penalty internally.

Ben Cousins was charged with bringing the game into disrepute after this suspension after;

1. Admitting that he had a relapse with his drug problem.

2. Admitting that he had cheated the AFL system in that relapse.

3. He was arrested for possesion of an illegal substance.

I think the AFL have acted appropriately and according to it's rules through both the Ben Cousins and Travis Tuck incidents. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant!

Feel for the kid.

He really needs a buddy.

Unless his buddy is a bad influence!

Frawley in goals.

But yeh, would be good for the youngster to travel OS with the team for the experience of playing in foreign land.

I think Dustin Fletcher has better form in goals. Frawley won't be selected, nor will Jamar. I think Bennell is better suited to the hybrid game.

If Harry Omg gets a gig before Chip, well... I don't know what, perhaps I'll post some strongly worded rantings upon message boards... but anyway, I rate Harry O as a footballer, but Chip has been so much better it's not funny. They both rebound, only one of them can stop anyone.

I see a Hitler rant coming on!

1. Jimmy's recovery

2. Finals footy

3. More wins than losses

4. LJ, Greeny, Wona, Watts & Ricky cutting loose

5. LJ Mark & Goal of the year (in the same game)

Great recognition for all three and much deserved! Good luck on the night guys!

My dream is to see Morton at CHF with an extra 15kgs on his frame.

I wholeheartedly agree! I would love to see him and Watts swap positions for half a season to help aid in both thier developments.

B&F - Jamar

MI - Dunn

BFYP - Scully

Popped in all my work email addresses as votes for your Chris! Should add up to about 12 votes. Good luck mate!

Gysberts should be much higher! Showed alot with limited opportunities.

6. Scully

5. Green

4. Jurrah

3. Sylvia

2. Rivers

1. Moloney

Cannot understate the improvement in Dunny's game this year! I never thought he was in our best 22 but his efforts this year have proved me wrong! Great goal Dunny! Hope it wins you the cookies, but more importantly, it's indicative of the improvement shown this year! 2011 and beyond!

Wow! The serious brigade are out in force today! I'm sure those same people will be cheering from the stands when we win a Premiership! Or would you all prefer we hand it back? Thanks for the help Jordie - your contribution to the future success of this football club will not be forgotten. Perhaps an honorary foundation hero title could be bestowed upon him. Lighten up folks!

I don't see him as being that much better than Miller. The club have already signalled thier intentions with Brad. so why would they get rid of one 27 yr old so-so tall forward only to turn around and pick up another?

BUMP!

You were the statue today Krazy! I agree with condemned - get the hell outta there!

I thought Morton's efforts highlighted your point! We need to be asking some very serious questions of Cale this offseason! He ability to win the ball is excellent, but he needs to do alot more kicking drills.

I also say that because I have $50 on us not being Bottom 4 with an Essendon fan... c'mon Dees, pull through for me. Incidentally I also have a slab of Crown on the line with the same guy about whether us or them win a flag first.

I have a bottle of Johnnie Blue on the Dees winning a flag before the Bombers! Hope we're both right!

Here comes the story of the Jurracaine!

6. Bruce

5. Scully

4. Jurrah

3. McKenzie

2. Dunn

1. Jamar

6. Sylvia

5. Frawley

4. Bruce

3. McKenzie

2. Bail

1. Wonaemirri

If you don't like my votes, bad luck, thier my votes not yours.

I wonder why so many people feel the need to ask people to justify thier opinion or call them stupid coz theirs varies.

If you want my justification, 'Just coz'.

Like Gysberts?

I thought Gysberts averaged 27 touches in his games?

Go with Pia, if I could, I would!!!

Three players have suffered over the past few years after showing great potential. Dunne, Martin and Morton. Each showed potential in their general area then the club decided to throw them around. Fortunately Dunne has returned to form having been put back up forward. Acknowledging injury has not helped Martin his experimentation has robbed him of much. Morton is my big question. He is an elitely skilled player. Plugged holes all over the ground. And he has disappeared from the scene. He is too valuable to be out of the team. His style is necessary for team variety. He is essential to our future. We are top heavy with slow inside players. Today Richmond ran us off our feet. Such players don't improve by going back to the VFL. I happen to know he is becoming dissillusioned because he is not being guided on why he is being dropped. He is disgruntled. I want him backk in now.

Cale could be a superstar!! At his best he could be an elite winger, but if he doesn't learn that hard work is the key ingredient, then he will be another Brent Grgic. He is the best of the Morton brothers, but is that really saying much???