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But do we need him? If we get Lever and TMac plays permanent forward (where he played the best footy of his career to date), Weid won`t get much of a look in unless of a)injuries or b) Watts leaves. We need outside pace and class in the midfield ASAP....considering his potential, Weid might get us someone good.

Yep agree entirely. I also feel the reason Frosty re-signed was as a result of knowing that Lever will actually take TMacs spot in the backline, not Frostys, TMac will be permanent forward. Weed then becomes surplus to requirements and a trade may nett us a decent mid with pace which is what we need more than anything.

I know he is contracted but I wouldn`t be surprised if we shop Weed around if the right offers come around.

Disappointing year for mine, even before injury I don`t remember him really standing out in a game. I still think he has enormous upside and I`m a big fan of his, however, injuries aside we should be seeing his best ability on a regular basis by now.

Sorry to derail the thread but how`s the house in Key West Ernest? Hope your cats are OK!

Correct me if I`m wrong but didnt the drive-by take place just before a sporting event/speaking gig type deal that he was to spill some beans but later pulled out of?

One of the great finals!

2nd highest home ground crowd average behind Brisbane Broncos......they are going more than OK

I spent more time watching The Storm than this Syd v Ess match. It was a ripper and they had to earn the win. Well done lads, another premiership on its way!

I mentioned this in a post yesterday in this thread. Can see he is hurting, which im happy with!

Big Max put the following caption up a few hours ago on a new sports app called 20four, along with a heartfelt video of how he crook in the guts he has felt since the game....check it out it is a great behind the scenes look into athletes of many sports lives. "2 weeks hiatus from social media, I`m back! Stay tuned for 11 weeks of determination to get back for a strong 2018. We all feel as [censored] as you do dees fans, lets bottle that and get going into 2018"

Giants used Pick 12, Carlton effectively used pick 7 to get him. We are clearly not the only ones who have made costly mistakes with draft picks. Unlikely to play again id say.

Has anyone managed to find closure and moved on from the heartache? I`m still filthy!

Just wanted to share with you all something that I found out in the past month from a Melbourne legend. (I was not alone when this was discussed, probably another 8 or 9 Demon tragics were present, I`m hoping someone on here was present to back this up) Viney openly told all players that he had never concerned himself with how teammates prepared and presented themselves in regards to training and/or preparation. He has perhaps the best training ethics and standards of anyone on our list, and demands that of himself, but not of anyone else. I was shocked to hear this. I`m not certain how or why he spoke about it to the playing group, I`m hoping(assuming) that it was discussed among himself and the coaching staff and then he relayed it to the players to acknowledge that this needs to change. If Viney demands/instills the drive, determination, and hunger that he shows on the training track and on Match Day into every single player on the list, THEN we might see some change. It seems obvious to me and many on here that leadership is our biggest problem. It certainly was last Saturday.

Agree with this. I will add though, that this weekend has dissolved a lot of the faith and trust I had conjured up about our playing group throughout the year, who knows what they will dish up next year.

Too soon!

David King, we know you read this site. You told us to chill and enjoy the ride as we will play finals......Maybe now you understand why our psyche is so damaged.

Not me Bobby. Why would they risk injury going into finals? Only got ourselves to blame and you can narrow that down to our leaders and our coach.

Yep, woke up to that and it just seemed perfectly appropriate....@SWYL will be filthy too! Long season ahead for us Gooners

You can't possibly argue that as good as we have shown we can be at times, this season has turned out to be an EPIC FAIL!

If Peter Jackson does not call every single player and coaching staff member in for some soul searching and finger pointing tomorrow I'll be filthy!

Never been this pizzed as a Dees fan. It's hard to single out one moment in a season of incredible highs and inexplicable lows, but that first quarter yesterday was a dagger in the heart. I cannot fathom we were not ready to tear that game apart, and our coach and leaders are to blame. Gutted

I've never been angrier in my life at the MFC right now

Gus Brayshaw was on 9 as well, looked and sounded as flat as you could possibly imagine. Max said looking at the permutations of today's results made him feel sick. I didn't see Viney but from what I saw of the other 2 they were hardly in party mode or making light of the situation as the OP suggests. They are hurting and so they should be.

Melbourne $1.35 favourites, Collingwood $3.25........