Whispering_Jack

Theres your answer there. I'm totally excited about Weetra, I think he can show us plenty of talent. Could become our new Cameron Bruce!

We shouldn't be getting too carried away with Weetra or any of our young recruits at this stage because all we'd be doing would be to put added and unneeded pressure on them (as if they don't have enough already). Let's remember that two of our four draftees from last year have yet to play AFL football with both Simon Buckley and Heath Neville playing in VFL reserves for most of the year. Same goes for Michael Newton who was drafted a year earlier. Let's be patient with them and if one or two do a "Bartram" then it's a bonus.

On the kicking skills of Joe Anderson, it looks like a general problem they have up there in the NT. I've been watching some of their games on ABC2 and I've noticed that while the games are exciting and high scoring affairs, the kicking skills are all over the place. A lot of the players are very good at short range with chip passes to players on the run but pretty much deplorable with their longer kicking.

I'm happy to go with the judgement of CAC and our recruiting people when it comes down to making decisions like the one between drafting Weetra and Anderson. They're the professionals and we're the amateurs.

Well done guys. Brought a tear to my eye seeing us dominate so well. Is there any chance of the rematch being played in Feb? I'll be back in Melbourne then, and relatively fit. I can also line up perhaps Before2Long and DreamTeam. All 3 of us would be handy at worst. It hurt to miss the day, I want to at least be there for the next one.

Well done lads. Sorry I couldn't be there but she who must be obeyed decided to have her birthday at the weekend and let's face it, when you meet a girl who's birthday's in November, you automatically think that's not going to interfere with footy.

Cheers and well done to the players and to Rollo - our chief organiser and manager!

And just to show our even handedness this is how our opposition saw the game - http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25881 (if you think some of the photos are out of focus then you had too much to drink after the game)

http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25879

yeh definately man, i said this last ashes series. spot on

But Robbo's a better bowler.

I have to agree with you there that it seems to be more fists than a game

Thats Sheedy 4 u

I reckon Sheedy gave the crowd exactly what they wanted. Entertainment, a bit of a donnybrook and some blood and guts and gore.

I personally can't stand the IR game and I'd prefer it if we tried to promote our game internationally rather than a hybrid that doesn't quite work unless there's a bit of World Wrestling Entertainment added to give it some spice.

I was full of admiration for the foot skills displayed by Paul Wheatley in the VFL GF. In exceptionally windy conditions he kicked long and accurately throughout the game. The AFL side missed his point kick-in skills this year. There are few better kicks in the AFL.

BUT, most Demonlanders are too young to remember back to the 50's and 60's.

Bob "Tassie" Johnson was a sensational kick from full back. I can remember him kicking off at the MCG and regularly kicking it to the centre of the ground. And that was with a drop kick!

And just on Paul Wheatley. I know he was being hawked around in the trade week but I'm glad he's still at the club. He can still be of value if he can stay injury free and I'm looking forward to him slotting through a few 9 pointers in the nabcup!

Just saw Lynden Dunn running on the beach in Surfers Paradise.

He is looking very fit and seems to put on a bit of muscle. A good sign for '07

Shmekel. You don't happen to know Shane Briss or Brett Moyle would you?

Just curious.

..oh crap, i forgot that Whispering reads these forums, and will get angry with me for lifting the lid on Newton.

I better check my mailbox, no doubt there's a letter from his solicitors.

What Solicitors Finks? I am a Solicitor and this is your first and only warning. Keep the lid on or else ...

He would have been playing VFL seniors for the last two years if Sautner wasn't at Sandy.

We would be crazy to let him go now.

The question's a no brainer all right.

He'll stay unless someone wants to give up a top five draft pick for him.

Ed Burston, the 'boom' ruck recruit of 1965, the beginning of an era when Melbourne no longer recruited big guns.

Peter Smith (son of Norm Smith) same era.

Chris Aitken... promised to be a big marking forward... kicked five last round 68? against later premiers, essingdon.

Tom Flower.

i remember diamond jim's first run at the ball in the south game at waverley. he charged in, the ball bounced badly and he over-ran it... Lou richards used to call diamond jim 'tillendrium' tillbrook as well, once his lustre had faded. apparently tillendrium is a less valued metal.

Burston was actually a boom ruck recruit of 1966. I remember him in his first practice match for Melbourne, an interclub game, the last of the '66 pre season. Apparently, this star player from University Blacks had been holidaying in Hawaii and he virtually stepped off the plane with his magnificent build and an even more magnificent sun tan. Looked a million bucks.

Played in an ordinary side at Melbourne but I remember him starring in a memorable victory over Hawthorn when he kicked 6 goals playing ruck and a forward pocket. Strangely enough, was dropped soon after. There's a story behind that but I'm not 100% sure it's true so I won't repeat it here.

Yes, disappointing but I still stand by my earlier comment about Tilbrook.

Tell you what, for those who join the Demonland/Demonology/Bigfooty supporters group I'll reveal my top 5 disappointing Demons at the first function plus my top 5 who surprised me.

Markc - I hope it's not too late to pay you a visit to collect a couple of Robbie dvd's?

Thanks Mark for your sterling efforts, and of course to the forgotten man, ASH, who is a bloody Essendon supporter!!

Great efforts fella's, the DVD is just great. What a player. The more I look at Robbie the more I think he's in the Hird mould but just a little better (sorry Ash)!!

I endorse that and thanks for your efforts Mark. I'm now back in Melbourne after a shortened break and when this bloody heat dies down I will pop into your store to collect the Robbie DVD, join your store as a member and hire a few DVD's. Feel free to send us in an advert and we'll give your business some free sponsorship.

As far as Ash is concerned, surely he could airbrush a Bomber jumper onto Robbie if he really wants to get a kick out of the DVD (although the Melbourne v Essendon games might become a bit confusing).

And FInks, how many candles are we supposed to light tonight and what do we do if it's a total fire ban?

John "Diamond Jim" Tilbrook would have to be the most disappointing in my book. He was recruited to the club from Sturt SA in 1971 and was probably one of the first highly paid Demons after the club had let other clubs lead the way in terms of professionalism. Our golden era was over and we hadn't played in the finals since 1964. Tilbrook had been a member of a sensational Sturt side which had won six SANFL flags in a row. His clearance from Sturt had been held up in the first half of the season but Melbourne was having a bit of a revival in 1971 winning 8 out of the first 9 games. Tilbrook was cleared to play at last in Round 12 at VFL Park against South Melbourne and, although the team has just lost two matches in a row (to top sides Richmond & Hawthorn), it was expected to surge into the finals with their new forward.

It was another typically wet day at Waverley but when "Diamond Jim" ran out every Melbourne supporter at the ground would have had their hearts in their mouths. The guy was built like a brick shyzenhausen. Wearing the Demon jumper he lacked only a red cape and a yellow S across his chest and he would have been the spitting image of Superman. When he got his first kick the resemblance with the man from Krypton was even more pronounced. The other mere mortals on the ground were kicking the ball around about 30 to 40 metres in the wet conditions. Tilbrook let loose with one that went 70! We were in heaven. Melbourne won 6.13.49 to South's 2.6.18.

The following week, The Dees lost a close one to the Bulldogs by a point but Diamond Jim didn't disappoint - he booted three through the big sticks. However, as the season went on, the Dees started losing games and slowly but surely they sunk out of the top 4 and Tilbrook went down to the bottom of the harbour with them. A consolation prize was the night premiership (the day finallists didn't take part in those games) and Tilbrook played in the centre.

John Tilbrook battled on until 1975 when he played just 2 games for a career total of 56 games in 5 seasons. By that time, he was an object of derision in the press and Lou Richards labelled him "Diamonte Jim" - diamontes being imitation diamonds.

He had turned out to be a false messiah and Melbourne languished for more than a decade after that before it made the finals. But for one brief wet day at Waverley, we thought all of our Xmases had come at once.

I would also appreciate a copy to go with my grainy old tape of Robbie highlights which is a copy of a copy of a copy ...

Ash - does it have Robbie's magnificent run from the back pocket to hff and goal at Windy Hill?

You need to look at the record books Tony. Brett Bailey will be disappointed you don't remember his efforts in 1988.

Er... we actually won the Night Premiership in both 1987 and 1989. The one that they show with reasonable regularity on Foxtel is the Melbourne v Essendon night grand final of 1987. Robbie missed out on that one through injury and I think it might have been Danny Hughes who captained the side that night.

I've been following the Demons since I was about five years old and Ron Barassi stands out as our greatest and probably always will. We won six premierships during his time as a Melbourne footballer and thanks to people like our coach Norm Smith, club secretary Jim Cardwell (in those days the secretary did just about everything at a club including recruiting), RDB and a couple of dozen fantastic footballers we were the kings of football.

After all that there has been nothing comparable but for Robbie Flower who was simply magnificent. He stood out in an era where the rest were ordinary. Everything he did was exquisite. When he took a mark time froze while he hovered above the other mere mortals below him. That was Robbie ...

I hope that perhaps there are others out there in the present side who can one day come close to matching him.

Finks. It might be seditious to criticise an avatar that contains the MFC monogram but I'm already missing the picture of Chewy!