Whispering_Jack

Bailey comes direct from Port Adelaide which probably made more changes to its list at the end of 2006 than any other club. Interesting!

Interesting one. Should Bailey coach Sunday, or should it depend on whether Riley wants to? If Riley is happy to, should it be Riley? Thoughts?

If he did, he would be assured of coming into 2008 with a 100% record .

Press Conference: 10 am tomo.

Will he be in the coaches box on Sunday if he gets the gig?

My preferred trade

Cameron Bruce, pick 18 and pick 20

to the Kangaroos for

Daniel Wells and pick 13

This lands us Wells, and we still have picks 2 and 13 in the draft

Aren't we presuming a little much here i.e. that we lose to Carlton and retain the picks. There are bookies out there who are willing to risk serious money against this eventuality.

i could still get 2nd

WJ, any chance you want to tell us your password to the oztips site? could make it an interesting friday night if we did your tips for you. lol

I'll make it easy for you.

In order for my lead to be halved, the people in equal second place will need to come up with results that would give us the wooden spoon!

i am not interested in allegations, medical records or what was said.

but you make a good point here. if 7 knew the records were stolen they could be in all sorts of problems...considering they paid for the documents.

and given this is the case, i guess we are never going to hear officially what was in them...

I don't practice much in the criminal law field these days but my recollection of the law is that the person who obtained them doesn't even have to know for sure that the records were stolen. It would be sufficient if he/she reasonably suspected that they were stolen or unlawfully obtained. However, the authorities might decide it's all to hard a case to prove. Redleg might be able to add some light with his vast knowledge of crime and the criminal mind?

wont float....for then the AFL would have to concede that TANKING actually exists !!

Andrew Demetriou said tanking doesn't happen but apparently (according to a poster on the Blues' supporter site - Tanking Carlton) in "the Herald Sun tomorrow, Kouta is quoted as saying that he believes we'd be better off losing against Melbourne." Kouta should be careful. He's still a registered AFL player and the powers that be could slap him with a please explain on the grounds that he's bringing the game into disrepute.

No, we can't mention it here. If you're clever you can find it though. Happy hunting.

Exactly and this thread is locked until the Supreme Court injunction is lifted.

Don't play any injured or saw players. Injured players cost us games.

Please don't give the selectors any suggestions or ideas. They might take them up.

Some sensational tipping will be needed to dislodge our leader the great Whispering_Jack (me) who remains 4 in front of a trio of challengers.

1. (1) 108 Whispering_Jack

2. (2) 104 Clyde_Cabbie

2. (5) 104 demon_davey

2. (2) 104 slamevil

5. (2) 103 deanox

5. (7) 103 Demonland

7. (8) 102 DeMoNiC

8. (8) 101 canberrademon(herb)

9. (5) 100 deesthisyear

9. (10) 100 Scoop Junior

11. (11) 99 Alpha_33

11. (11) 99 Pinball_Wizard

13. (14) 98 snarler_0

14. (11) 97 great_gatsby

15. (17) 96 petejh2000

16. (15) 95 achirnside

17. (18) 94 frangas

17. (15) 94 Rivers Run Red

19. (18) 90 Go_Ds

20. (21) 88 Jackieboy_0

21. (20) 87 BigKev Demon

22. (22) 82 bl3281

23. (23) 81 dee'viator

24. (25) 78 No Cigar

25. (24) 77 TimDees

26. (26) 73 paliosiana

27. (27) 70 KrazyJay

28. (28) 68 rusty_corner

29. (29) 67 Goodvibes

30. (30) 66 CarnTheDees

31. (31) 59 Kieranbj

32. (32) 58 demon_fanatic

33. (33) 57 Dees_Fan16

34. (34) 55 Fingers Power

35. (35) 54 Dappadan

36. (36) 48 melon22

37. (37) 47 jaded24

38. (38) 39 rusty_kingswood

SANDRINGHAM?

B Bizzell Biddlecombe Martyn

HB CJ Ferguson Paterakis

C Buckley C Liddell Poyas

HF Dunn Crowe Sylvia

F Newton Sautner T Johnston

FOLL Neaves Summers Valenti

IC Jamar Gilchrist Garland Hughes Monaghan M Johnston S Martin Neville ?????????????

It's not even worth speculating on the team until we know who's avalable for Melbourne v Carlton. There might be very few Demons in the Sandy team at all unless we have a few coming back from injury.

This is what the AFL site is saying - COURT ACTION OVER AFL STORY and in the circumstances we'll go into lockdown until it's safe to open up again. For those who don't know the name of the club it's not Melbourne and we definitely won't merge this topic with any other.

Edit: The following additional newspaper stories hve been published this morning - DRUG SHOCKS TOP MELBOURNE CLUB

- DRUGS CLAIM ROCKS AFL

It appears that the Supreme Court injunction was obtained on behalf of the doctor treating the players and it prevents publication of the players' names and the club they represent. In the circumstances we will remain in lockdown on the subject.

If you value the facilities that your club's supporter websites provide I suggest that, for the time being you refrain from commenting on this subject on Demonland or Demonology.

Warnock is from the Sandy area, as is his brother. This is one of the reasons why some of us think we may be able to prise him away from Fremantle when he is out of contract which is this year, I believe. Our Warnock has been carrying an ankle injury recently and is rumoured to be not 100% fit, so I guess he is going for a free ride as insurance.

The naming of Hayes and Weetra in the reserves team leaves only five MFC players in the Sandy team; this has got to be some sort of record.

Note however that six of the eight players named on the bench for Sandy tomorrow have also been named in the reserves. That leaves room for at least two of those players to remain in the seniors and hopefully they will be Weetra and Hayes.

Incidentally, according to the Hobart Mercury Sandringham's opponent in next week's qualifying final Williamstown, will by contrast play 15 Collingwood-listed players (including Brodie Holland, Rhyce Shaw, Paul Licuria, Ryan Lonie and Sam Iles) in tomorrow's final round game against the Tassie Devils.

INS - Bruce, Ward, Miller, C Johnson, P Johnson, Buckley

OUTS - Bate, Davey, Bell, Holland, Wheatley, Mc Donald - ALL INJURED

"Issue for any candidate, be it Sheedy or anyone else, is to look at their record (and if KS record in recent years been ard 40pc win ratio...)

Statistics and damned lies. What's the ratio in recent years if we take out 2006 which was hobbled by injury? Or more particularly, take out 2006 after Matthew Lloyd was injured following Round 1 when he kicked 6 goals in the first quarter against the reigning premier?

Summers has already been rookied on an afl list and failed.

I actually spoke to him a year back and asked him whether he was trying to get a rookie spot on another AFL team's list like MFC. (I'm a Summers fan).

He told me that when he was on an AFL list he didn't handle it well and he didn't have the drive to be an AFL player. He said that he was more than happy playing VFL and continuing other employment ventures as well ... This is coming from him mouth, I don't think he can be an AFL player.

Valenti on the other hand is young and committed and it seems to me has the passion/skill to make it at AFL. I'd be more than happy to rookie him.

Summers may have changed his position since because from the sound of the IF article he might be happy to get onto an AFL list.

It should also be noted that the MFC doesn't have automatic first call on players who happen to be on Sandy's list. I wouldn't be surprised if players like Valenti, Summers, Monaghan, Stefan Martin and Tomi Johnston get strong consideration by clubs at the end of the year.

Just back from the reserves game (I'm off for an afternoon of culture and art soon) and the Reserves' season virtually ended with defeat at the hands of North Ballarat, one of the club's rivals for a finals place. It was a depleted reserves team with at least four and possibly five of the seelcted side out including Melbounre listed player Heath Neville. They struggled early and then got ahead by a point with the first two goals but they were outclassed for almost all of the next two quarters before mounting a comeback of sorts late in the third term and in the first half of the last quarter. Unfortunalty, the Roosters kicked away at the end and that was it.

Daniel Hayes looked pretty classy but Isaac Weetra was out of the play for most of the game. Each kicked a goal but they are still very much in their development stages.

Sandringham 1.5.11 4.9.33 6.12.48 12.20.92

North Ballarat 3.4 22 8.10.58 13.16.94 18.18.126

Goals

Sandringham Cleeve Yaman 2 Curcio Dean Dunne Hayes McGettigan Turcarelli Weetra Williams

North Ballarat Schultz 4 Ewart Hardy Taylor 2 Burchell Dignan Drew Grima Morgan Otto Urquhart Raworth

Best

Sandringham McKenzie McGettigan Dean Gribbin Turcarelli Tregear

North Ballarat Drew Clark Lewis Schultz Parkin Morgan

A reasonably good crowd of Demon supporters are on hand and I saw some players in the crowd as well. James Frawley was there early (obviously catching up on some of his old North Ballarat mates) but I also saw Colin Garland walking around the boundary about half an hour before the game so I would suggest he's not playing.

Edit: Quarter time sees the Zebras trailing by 14 points after some inaccuracy in front of goal.

Sandringham 2.7.19

North Ballarat 5.3.33

Could somebody please explain how these work and what they mean?

I read in today's HUN that Nathan Jones spent 85% of the time on ground and finished with 20 disposals, eleven of them contested possessions. His ranking for the game was 29.

Paul Wheatley spent 100% TOG for the same number of disposals but had a ranking of 94.

Collingwood's Tarkyn Lockyer had 91% TOG for his 20 disposals, gave away three free kicks and finished with a ranking of 108.

Despite all of the above, Jones was voted third best on ground. Both Wheatley nor Lockyer who had much higher rankings failed to get in the votes.

Am I missing something?

If Ben Holland finds himself in the reserves next week then he will also be qualified.

Poor timing Bazza!

I used to know a poster on here called Redleg, nice guy I wonder what happened to him

His wife bought him a pair of slippers, they had a fire place installed and he now sits on the sofa on cold winter Sunday arvos sipping hot cocoa and staring at the flames. Same goes for a young lad known as Finks. The TBO canteen is is a financially parlous state because it overbudgeted on its hot dog supplies. Coincidentally, the local hospital is reporting a dramatic downturn in food poisoning cases this year.

[Only joking guys - the canteen does a great job and we highly recommend it around here]

The Age is having a shocking day with editorial stuff ups and this one's an absolute ripper -

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/round-20...6857671776.html

Melbourne

Backs: Holland Carroll Brown

Half-backs: Bell Ferguson Wheatley

Centres: Bate McDonald Johnstone

Half-forwards: Green Newton Sylvia

Forwards: Pickett Neitz Robertson

Followers: White Dunn Rover: Jones

Interchange: McLean Jamar Davey Bode

Emergencies: Ward Miller Buckley

In: McLean Bate

Out: Frawley (ankle) Moloney (abductor)

I wonder who he's abducted?

[suggest you get in quick before they wake up]

Good to hear Buckley played well. I've recently become friends with someone who's been friends with him since they were kids, and she says he lives and breathes footy. Was a die-hard Melb supporter, and has made playing in the red n blue his life. Apparently he is insanely hardcore compulsive about it, doesnt go out pubbing etc, and trains himself into the ground, whether with the team or on his own. Was sad not to be playing this weekend, but will continue to work his ass off to be able to pull on the red n blue. It's always good to hear about players who have a real passion and pride for the jumper

I was at the game and you can take it from me that irrespective of the official best players, Simon Buckley was easily the best player on the ground. So when the publicity starts about the possibility of a Buckley playing in Friday night's game, the Buckley could be Simon, not Nathan.

The plot might change dramatically however, if Melbourne wins another game before it plays Carlton. In that case,

If Melbourne win:

Carlton PP 1, Richmond 2, Carlton 3, Melbourne 4 ... Richmond PP 18, Richmond 19, Carlton 20, Melbourne 21 (next Melbourne pick 37)

If Carlton win:

Richmond 1, Melbourne 2, Carlton 3 ... Richmond PP 17, Melbourne PP 18, Richmond 19, Melbourne 20, Carlton 21

And then of course Carlton could also win before the final round and Richmond might overtake Melbourne before Round 22 ...

Watching the Richmond demolition of Collingwood yesterday I couldn't help but be impressed by Nathan Foley. Here's a guy picked up by the Tigers in the 2004 Rookie Draft (at #4 immediately after Aaron Davey) who has worked his butt off to get to where he is today. He's just improved and improved ...

This has got me wondering about our crop of young players. There's a lot of promise there but when are we going to see some dramatic improvement from them? Right at the moment it seems as if most of them reach a plateau and there's little advancement beyond that. Will the advent of a new coach bring some more out of these players?

Will Jace Bod be the next Nathan Foley?