710 Ashbury St

Moustaches can be scary 😂. I’m not a fan of some of them myself. My daughter isn’t a footy fan but loves to say she’s a Collingwood supporter—I think it’s just to [censored] me off, but who knows. She’s 18 now, so I’m no longer obligated to let her live with me or support her so she’ll hopefully stop mentioning it to keep living here(completely kidding—I would never kick her out for that). But she does appreciate Trent Rivers and Fritta as far as looks go…

It would be good to know as I’m down there for work quite a bit now and will need to be even more in the new year to fix the mess that’s been made. Ugh. But this is a good news thread, so the good news is the person who made the mess is gone, and I have a couple of potential people to replace them. A Christmas miracle 😂

You’re not wrong…

My husband is also a bit older—and was prematurely grey to boot—so people always thought he was her grandfather as well. It used to make him so angry LOL

Congratulations! She’s beautiful. I hope someday I end up with some. My son and his partner are saying they don’t want any, and my daughter is only 18—so I’d prefer that not happen anytime soon 😂. I’d like to be a grandmother—not raise another one. Have a wonderful Christmas with them. This time of year is the only time I wish I was in America in winter. The holidays with my family. But, it’s all good. ❤️ And the good news for me is that only 1.5 more days until a long weekend. And when I go back to work Monday, lots of people are off so I can actually get work done instead of dealing with 100 questions and countless meetings. 🤦‍♀️

You guys are the absolute pits of the world, you know that? (Obviously that was his follow up to your quote). My other favourite is “Do you have any problems other than you’re unemployed, a moron, and a dork?” And that’s what made me like him. He was feisty when I was in my early teens 😂

It’s generally meant as the first person you love etc. I was using it in a joking sense as Clarry is the first favourite player of any sport I’ve had—other than tennis. And that was John McEnroe so gives you and idea of my taste 😂

I’ve been listening too all kinds of stuff—both old and a little newer. My music taste is pretty eclectic—people will drive in my car and I shuffle play my music: Grateful Dead—Hip Hop—Country—Billy Strings (Bluegrass/Jam Band)—Broadway Show Tunes—Pop—Bluegrass—Rap. I get a lot of [censored] for it. If you haven’t listened to Billy Strings, check him out. He’s an amazing guitarist and his band is bluegrass/jam band. Lots of their shows are on Relisten or Archive. I’ve loved Away from the Mire since I first heard it and the latest one I’m liking a lot is Gild the Lily. But I’ve been listening to him for years and love it all. I got into him right before COVID when he was doing a lot of Grateful Dead covers. I saw him here in Melbourne. Live Grateful Dead. For years I’ve listened to at least one show a day using Relisten, then I can play a show from that day. Lots of 90’s Grunge—and then the Foo Fighters. I’m trying to make a work trip to Tassie line up with when they play there, but not sure I’ll be able to. And when I’ve had a [censored] day, I listed to a mix of alternative, hip hop (mainly old JayZ, Snoop, Eminem, etc. mainstream af), heavy metal, etc.

I’m a huge fan of Clarry. I know it’s not the popular opinion on here, but I was upset that he left. Obviously, I’m not delusional and know his form had fallen off significantly, he was having issues, culture, etc. But, when I started watching footy seriously (2016 0r 2017), he had just started. I somehow ended up a Dees supporter and he was my favourite player. Here’s where I am crazy—I’ve never gotten into any sport before (except tennis)—so I’ve never been a huge supporter of any team—let alone had a favourite player (Boston Red Sox, but nowhere near how I feel about footy). So, I guess what they say is you never forget your first 😂. I know this was the right move for him and the club now. I get that. But, it took me awhile to get there. I watch a lot of footy, so I’ll definitely be watching the Giants. Reading this thread is far out. He’s gone, some of us are devastated, some aren’t happy, there’s indifference, and then there’s people who just wanted him gone. Regardless, he played on a premiership team. He was a big part of that—why do we have to argue about him and how great or how terrible he was? He’s not here anymore. None of us was in the room or knows firsthand what happened. We’ve read edited interviews. Let it go. My SS got me one of those videos from him for Christmas. He said he was sorry for leaving Melbourne 2-3 times, told me not to cancel my membership (running joke at work) and that he has good mates on the Demons still and we’ll get wins. And that he’s at the Giants and doing ok (or something). I loved getting it—but there was something about feeling like he needed to apologise that felt sad. He’s not a very articulate guy at the best of times. Can’t we just wish him the best and be grateful for the time he was with us? Seriously, he was a gun out there. I loved watching him. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. I’m a bit overtired and done so I really just over shared. Also, he could have refrained from saying “Go the Giants” cheekily at the end of the video 😂

For some reason, that caught me off guard—it’s crazy. I mean, obviously I know enough to realise that Wikipedia isn’t a reliable source and people edit it, but adding Demonland as a citation is hilarious. If people took half of the things we say on here as fact, just one Wikipedia page would confuse the hell out of people.

You’ll be the adult version of Eddie :) Next time you have to yell each players name as they come by.

I think I would have gotten there. But, what happened at Bondi is exactly what pulled me away. Heartbreaking.

I had to go out for a bit, but I’m determined to get this 😂

I’m way late to the game, but I’d love to give my husband away… I doubt there’d be any takers though. I’d planned to try to get down there, but have been so busy lately. Holiday in Bali, but then away for work 3-4 nights each week. And sooo not in the Christmas spirit. Where I work, we do Christmas parties for clients and staff at just about every site so I’ve been to 8 in the last 2 weeks. I’m feeling over it. I’ll have to get down to an open training to see how things are going. I’ve been wondering, but oddly enough for me, I seriously haven’t even had the energy to scroll through Demonland after work

Me neither. I have to go to Tassie regularly for work and can make those trips coincide nicely with a footy match.

Wow. Awful spelling error on my part—writing too quickly as always. And I’m usually the one correcting everyone else’s spelling. Thank you…

Yep. My absolute favourite. Huge Deadhead. And 710 Asbury is the address of the Grateful Dead house in the Haight.

This is a hard one. I’ve got a crazy headache from looking at it. Has anyone got it yet?

I’m not at all surprised at the digs he’s taken at the media. He was their number one target for much of the last few years at least. And Cleary pretty much chased him through the airport—when he first said anything to him, apparently Claz told him that if he tried to get him to answer questions he’d tell him to [censored] off. And he did. This was right after his meeting. And as I’ve said before none of us know what went on inside those 4 walls. I imagine the truth is somewhere between what MFC has said, the media has said, and what Clarry’s version is. And sorry, but he’s not wrong on Tom Morris either. As for him thanking supporters and doing a farewell post—sure, it would have been nice and maybe will happen. But, let’s not forget that this isn’t a move he wanted to make and had just recently released a statement that he’d be at the club next year. This wasn’t an amicable parting and he is obviously hurt and angry. The wound is still open. Combine that with him not being all that articulate at times, but by all accounts of people who actually know him, he’s a genuine guy. Anything he’d say now would be pure PR spin and not authentic. He also doesn’t have anyone running his socials for him as someone like Trac does. I get that the trade was probably the right way to go—doesn’t mean he has to be happy about it. I’m not happy about it, but apparently that’s because I’m a woman (someone said in a post that it’s women upset about it because we’re mothers—nah, I’m [censored] human). I’m with Max when he said he hopes next season we see Clarry with a Brownlow around his neck. Lots of you wanted him gone—I’ve accepted he is. But, let’s not forget his part in 2021. He had a PART in it—just like he’s had a PART in what’s happened as a TEAM since. All this [censored] about him single-handedly taking us out of contention is ridiculous. There’s 22 players all up for every game. Then there’s a coach. And let’s not forget the absolute [censored] the MFC has been at the CEO, President, and board level. If you don’t think that instability runs all the way through the team, I’d vehemently disagree.

LOL not sure who I’d choose—probably Bontempelli, Jesse Hogan, or Zac Butters.

I’m a Trident member and can get premium guest passes—they’re like $30 but you still have to get a GA ticket for the guest if you want to sit in the premium guest area (not where your reserved seat is). To be honest, when I go alone, I sit in my seat, but when I go with friends, I like sitting on level 1 close to the field for some reason. So, have stopped getting the passes except for the big games (Anzac Eve, Big Freeze) I reckon I sit in my actual seat maybe 5 times a season. I considered changing my membership, but when I’m alone, at least I have the people around me to talk to since they’ve been there awhile.

This comment is not in relation to Oliver/Trac, but I do think some responsibility should be taken by club administration. There’s been a ton of unrest and no consistency at the CEO/Board/President level for quite awhile. I know that this may seem unrelated to team performance, but without consistency at the highest level, the impact will flow down. I’m not excusing anything or attempting to shift blame at all, but I truly believe it plays a big role in things. It’s a collective effort. My job is in no way elite sports, but the level of chaos involved in a transition at the CEO/Board level does flow down significantly to people regardless of level.

I definitely won’t be booing him. And obviously when Giants play us, I’ll be all about us winning. But, I tend to watch a lot of footy—probably way too much for someone who never liked sports—so I’ll definitely be tuning into GWS and 100% barracking for them in those instances. In regard to Clarry the person, I’ll always be hoping he finds happiness in his life. It’s just the Social Worker in me. So you know, your posts in particular for some reason have given me some perspective and helped me move beyond the emotion of it all to a more logical approach. Initially, I wasn’t always sure how to take things you wrote, but after reading lots of them, I understood you to be balanced in your views. So, thank you for that.

This week, I’ve been reading on here but not commenting. I know you guys will laugh at me and all that—but I’m gutted by this whole situation. I agree he’s an adult and needs to make decisions and act like one. But I also feel like he’s been a media target—often for good reason—and I imagine that’s exhausting. I understand that it’s exactly what life as an AFL player on big $ will get. Doesn’t make it any easier. I also believe what actually occurred in that room is somewhere between the media version, the clubs version, and Clarry’s version (whatever that is). He was obviously hurt—in his mind, this was the first year (in the past 3) that he thought he wouldn’t be put up for trade—something caused him to think that. And then it changed very quickly. I’ll be honest, the Collingwood comment, I took it as a guy who’s hurt lashing out. I’m not going to read to much into it, because like the airport nonsense, we see what the media wants us to—definitely not the whole picture. And again—he’s been hounded by the media incessantly—they’ve speculated about his personal life, continuously brought up his issues outside footy—even without reporting anything new on that front for over a year. I left a job last year after changes of CEO and lots of other things. I know that angry feeling. Thankfully, no one in the press gives a [censored] how I feel—but catch me on a bad day and who knows what I might say. I’ve never been into sports-other than tennis. I moved to Australia in 2013 and got really into AFL in 2016 which was his first season. He’s been my favourite player and he was a gun for us. This hurts—because for me, it’s the first time I’ve given a [censored] about any kind of sports or any player. My family/friends in the US would be laughing at me if they saw how I’ve been—and I’m not young. My son is 29 and is a huge sports freak. I never understood when he got so upset about his teams (Patriots, Yankees, Bruins, and now Richmond) losing games/players. I get it now. I’m heartbroken and will always have a special place for Clarry. I well and truly hope that this move brings him the peace and recovery that settles him. I also want to see him back to his best. I believe he can get there. I know he wasn’t at his best the past couple of years, but come on, he did not “single handedly” cause us to not contend. That’s ludicrous. It’s been a strange week for me with lots of emotions. So, if you want to laugh at me and react with vomit emojis or whatever have at it.

Again, lots of this is based on speculation—we don’t know the facts, we know what’s reported. I said in another comment, I am happy to be proven wrong if that’s the case. None of us (that I know of) have direct knowledge of the situation. May have very well been happening all along, but his alleged reaction to the meeting is disproportionate if that’s the case.