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3 hours ago, Macca said:

I agree, we need to get Kozzie into the play and he is good enough to handle it

The trouble with giving him a spell is for how long?  Finals aren't far away and we need to get him into form

Ditto for JVR ... Brown knows how to play the deep forward role but JVR needs some space to run around in

Against the Blues we played him up the ground a bit and he looked impressive

It's an early call but he looks like a CHF type to me ... not in the traditional role (not yet anyway) but more in the T-Mac mode

This might sound trite, even farly fetched: I only saw the replay but the ball appeared mainly where Kozzie wasn't: in other words, a lot of action passed him by. You have those days in footy. If you want to watch the reply - again, but only of you want to - the play often bypassed where Kozzie was. An analogy might be when most of the play is on one wing, and the other winger's stats can seem miserable. Have faith.

On the topic, how bloody good is that double named saint - Wanganeen?  !!!!!!

6: May

5: Petty

4: Petracca

3: Melksham

2: Swallow

1: Viney

14 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Just watched most of the replay and I've got to say credit needs to go towards the Saints intensity and tackling.

They played a very defensive game and shut down a lot of our handballing and kicking down the middle. Their kids did very well. 

I thought the Saints were terrific: losing 3 in the first quarter would hurt any team. They have some serious young talent coming through. However, the win was a credit to the Demons; the score in the first quarter at one stage was 3 goals five to one solitary Melbourne Goal. From that point, the Saints scored five goals five and we scored 11 goals 7...

10 hours ago, Redleg said:

Has it stopped raining in the Alice yet?

Good Redleg: this was descending into schoolyard toilet banter. I was dis custard.

6 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

What is it about people blaming umpires yes they make mistakes, caught on the wrong side to see, think players are ducking ect, the crows blew it themselves in the second quarter full stop wasn't the umpires fault for the turnovers, sloppy kicks and handballs and the pies in the third, while I agree it's frustrating at times, then what's the answer get rid of the umpires and let the captains call it ....lol., they have a hard job, it's a quick moving contact sport, it's not easy to officiate. 

I agree mostly with your point of view. However, when there are a chain of inconsistent calls, then I don't see how one can come to any other conclusion than that there ought to be some consistency - neutral consistency at that. You can point to any amount of errors a team makes but both teams make similar errors at some points of tightly contested games and I believe it's simply wrong that an umpiring error is the difference between victory or defeat. 

The bottom line about this game is that Rankines kick was a goal, and a punch to the face in a marking contest is a free kick any day of the week except when a Collingwood player is the puncher in a game at the MCG>

46 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Picked this up off twitter. Not sure why the photo looks weird but it shows the 
last contest where Dawson coped a high one on the shnoz.

 

Robbed.

Was about to post: what crapfy umpiring - again. Also, Rankine kicked a goal. He touched the ball BEFORE it crossed the line.

And what was the Cox Free for? The Adelaide players response indicated it was total sullbhit.

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

If you watched Dunstan yesterday and his terrible disposal, you could not add him to our already poor disposal.

Kicked it straight to a Cats player on several occasions. Gets the pill, but turns it over constantly.

But so did Tommo...

11 hours ago, doc roet said:

Did Massey and Tassie Bob play together? I think they did. As a kid I think I remember they used to swap roles sometimes at full back

Tassie played in the ruck  sometimes, he became a bit of a swing man...

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Philistines , Mongols, barbarians at the front door ..... what is this thread coming to?

I have tried endlessly to add some refinement to this thread but , apparently, I have failed miserably.

I'll say it again. The only libation for a refined gentleman is .... of course Shiraz.

Follow Uncle Bitter's advice - you won't go wrong!

Yep, Philipines galore. Hey, my brother, have you heard of Nebbiolo and Sangiovese and the dreaded fey Pinot Noir? And, what the f is wrong with the Noble Cab Sav????

9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Goals From Free Kicks Ladder - Round 14

Wow. And it's supposed to be fair and equal...

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Massey, Miller, Roet , Williams  etc...

Some great players way back then

You forgot Leahy and Anderson...

Sidney's Wicks gets 2 weeks for elbowing a player in the head after he's disposed, Hunter gets a week for not getting out of the way of a kamikaze player's head, and they were gonna suspend Van R for spoiling. 

No way is the system Ducked, no way is it staggered, no way is it unjust, it just follows Christian law, God help the rest of mankind.

2 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

Perf '21 GF half time queue into the boy's room. An obnoxious [censored],* probably one of Max's WCE supporters impersonating MFC barrackers in Demon livery. Slurs braggingly "Go Dees" whilst spill/slopping the contents of his plastic beer cup on my person. Given the state of the match, his behaviour gets one star out of five. Cognisance zero. Its amazing what people can do to themselves on half-cut beer.

Unsure why folk keep dragging the same tired old stereotypes about Collingwood supporters. My relatively recent experiences sitting amongst them, suggests otherwise. A younger educated demographic, courteous well-behaved and knowledgeable about the game.

Yes, the Yuppies have certainly totally rooned the E Colli Wobbler image!!!!😂🤣😍

1 hour ago, Jontee said:

ah sorry I cant resist, I know have me arrested, but who has a pet cox?

3 blind mice??????

28 minutes ago, Bystander said:

Not my experience, I met him several times and he was very humble and gracious.

Saw him at a lunch in st Kilda 4-5 weeks ago along with big nick, tuddy etc. Aged but very nice bloke.

 

Not saying it was his attitude: he obviously misread my intentions. I thought he simply doesn't wanna be Jezza when he's buying his beer and tobacco, if you get my drift. I wasn't casting 'aspersions' or perversions, ok; more of a note about how I obviously came across...😂🤣😎I loved the guy, loved watching him play. 

12 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yep, played a bit of Rugby and Soccer growing up in Canberra as well I believe. Footy didn't come along until his early teens.

Bumped into him at Richmond Dan Murphy one day. He looked immaculate in his suit, and I said, You are the famous Ukrainian/Russian footballer and your name is Alex... He ignored me and walked away...

Very unfriendly chap, I taut to meself....

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Who are your three Irishmen? I've got four in mind: Jim Stynes, Sean Wight, Tadgh Kenneally and Zac Tuohy. For what it's worth, I like Mason Cox and believe his ability to get to 100 AFL games is a huge achievement. History has shown that it's been harder for Ameericans to learn our game than the Irish.

The definition of "import" perhaps needs clarification, too. There's bloke who was born in Austria who came to Australia as a 4 year old who played alright. Hint: Ukranian father and Russian mother. Played for Carlton (and St Kilda, although no-one cares about that bit.)

I have no idea what went on between Cox and Petracca, and, frankly don't care.  

That's the mighty Alex J, who I identify with because in some circles, his nationality is given as Austrian, as some looney tunes say about me. In other words, both of us were born to Dispossessed refugees who happened to be living in a refugee camp at the time. I said to one Priest who said, You're not German, you're Austrian. I replied, Hey, if my parents would have been refugees in Japan, would you call me Japanese? ( The White Supremacist priest in question understood what I was saying. He once told his class about the great, great benefits of living under British Colonial rule. He said, They left great infrastructure. I burst out laughing...)

And, with regard to the PetCox drama, I was just curious as to the real reason why two decent blokes might blather away after a game like that.

38 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Not really sure Warne is a flawed hero? Legend i would say.

I thought he was a human being and a bloody good cricketer: he took over the mantle of the greatest German Cricketer from me. Most human beings are 'flawed', and I'm not sure what 'Legend' means. A legend is someone invented by historical mythology. 

11 hours ago, praha said:

tbh I found Pies supporters to be quite tame yesterday. comparative to what we're used to. they seemed quite humbled and accepting of the kids. almost praising. seems they kind of expected that one.

During my taxi driving days when I was writing grate Litracha on the side - I still do - I picked up 4 ladies from Elizabeth Street entrance of Flinders St Station on a Saturday morning. They were off to Victoria Park, yep, the footy.  Off we took, up Elizabeth street and I had to do a hook right hand turn at La Trobe. Traffic towards the Market was heavy, and just as the light changed to amber I set off to turn and a dude ran the light - he was hanging out for his Bratwurst at the food stall, no doubt - and subsequently blocked all traffic travelling east on La Trobe. I muttered Knuclbuckle, an f where the b now stands. We get to the Members Entrance at Victoria Park - memories floating through my brain, going to cricket practice there when I lived in Northcote, watching Collinwood gobble us alive at Victoria park, Weidemann sending Owen Zink into Alpha Centauri in his first game, in 1964, watching a Geelong  v Colli Wobbler game later that year, a blind man being pushed by his friend to the front row, muttering Blind man, Blind Man, everybody standing aside to let them pass, then in the first quarter, play is on the members goal square and blind man gets up from his seat on the fence and points to the opposite goal where someone has dropped someone behind play...

Anyway, the Ladies pay, and the last one to exit mumbled, Now, we aren't tipping you because you used such filthy language back in the city.  I swear, my mumble began with the letter k instead of F, in other words, I did a spoonerism, and I replied: Excuse me lady, if you've got a problem with bad language I suggest you all get back in the cab because where you're going is the Colosseum of Filthy Language... 

9 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

Broad sweeping statement

Cox is arrogant because he's arrogant, not because he's American.

Plenty of arrogant AFL players, very few are American. Maybe its us Aussies who are arrogant!

Cox has played 100 games in a tough sport that he did not grow up with. He's a good sportsman 

None of us really know the detail behind their heated conversation

Well said. Actually, I thought his game was pretty good on Monday.

I was hoping the anti American stuff would be left out. In real life, in the world situation, nobody is a bigger critic of the USA than I am, but this has nothing to do with being American. I was simply curious about why it happened.

2 hours ago, YearOfTheDees said:

They were very confident before the game including the tool who  put the $91000 on the pies to win just before the first bounce. 

Isn't that called money laundering?

Does anyone have any idea what Cox was on about? Even his team mates were restraining him. Please, no comments about his origin, just maybe someone knows someone who has an inkling what it was about.

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Was this meant for me? 

I was also crediting his work rate when it was suggested he did very little. His 22 pressure acts helped to setup our intercept game in the front half. Not going to hear me say he did nothing!

Sorrow recorded. Appreciate your insight and your reply. My mistake.

23 minutes ago, Jontee said:

No, I havent which makes me an absolute expert 😁

I like JJ and I think he deserves more game time than he gets.  But i rate him as a good honest foot soldier.

Thanks for your answer: I appreciate your honesty. 

And, for the record, it doesn't mean I don't value your opinion, it just helps me understand your perspective. I've followed the D's since a958 when I was 8, I am very familiar with how easy it is to form opinions about the value of players and it's only since age had mellowed me that I understand there was a lot more in the world than I could imagine: same with footy.