Monbon

10 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Quite frankly im disillusioned by the club.. seemingly wanting justice and fairness and then bottling.

Don't give me ...oh they went into bat for JVR... so they bloody should. They ought to as a default.. That's the point..  it's like a Solicitor exclaiming "objection" ...it's  just done as a matter of course ( given sufficient basis to object of course )

Here there plainly is...

 Carlton, Collingwood etc..  it's their default position.  The league knows it.The league thinks twice with them

They  know we're a lot softer.

I'd go to war against these fools. You dont get change without risk. Push back... push back... call them out. 

Have words to THEM..  suggest they either get fair dinkum or WE'LL  control the narrative.  Well push our barrow through the 4th Estate...  We'll stink it up bad.

You dare to crucify us... we'll call you out

Fair's fair at the same time..  a player actually transgresses...  we'll cop it sweet.

You trump up b.s and NOT hand out the same infringement equally to others then well ask the court of public opinion.

People like an Underdog.... most cant stand the rubbish that the AFL does...it's egos...its fiddling with the game...its B.S. for the boys club

I wouldn't fear Gil.. Dill or any of that lot...  id make them fear us.

Theyre custodians, not owners of the game. 

The best defence is an attack.

Tired of these bullies

Probably coming across as a rant..  

We seem as a club to be often unfairly targetted. If i didn't know better ( and i dont ...lol ) id almost believe there are those in this industry who resent the MFC. Some seem seriously carry a burning fire to smite us at every opportunity. 

You have two choices.... accept it..  or not. In NOT you have to be consistent  lest you are found out

Strength of character is not doing something once...it's doing it everytime you're put back into that position.

Ive never been convinced we have much backbone as a club...  I'm still unconvinced. 

And for that matter the team plays footy the same way..  go hard when its easy..go missing when it isnt.

Same at club level.

That is the definition of club culture.

Ours needs to change.

We're being pushed aside...again.

 

 

 

Hear hear!!!!!!

20 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

Yep, dived straight into or onto Rozee who was also trying to get his hands on the ball. Have you ever played footy? Because if you had, you'd not make such a preposterous statement. For the record, I doubt Gleeson has played footy, other wise he would not have suggested to Hunter that he simply should have stepped aside ...

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

The rules say the Tribunal can view other incidents and if those incidents are not similar, the panel can be advised to ignore them.

I don’t know the full facts, but on what was disclosed, we asked for similar incidents to be viewed and Gleeson refused, apparently out of hand, quoting rule 5.5.

I have disclosed that rule above and it appears he has misquoted or wrongfully interpreted that rule. Why am I not surprised?

To see those videos in the Tribunal, would have put out in the media and the public, the inconsistency of the MRO and the Tribunal.

It would also have made it extremely difficult to uphold the suspension of Hunter.

If Gleeson has nothing to hide, why would he not allow vision of similar incidents and simply explain why they are treated differently?

To me this smacks of a dictatorship type of behaviour, where you don’t want the public seeing, or knowing what is going on.

Suspensions affect the competition and this to me is another blow, to what is left of the disappearing integrity of the AFL competition.

 

Gleeson has simply re-affirmed he is a dictator.

33 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

I stopped posting in this thread a couple of days ago as the more I tried to explain my contrarian POV, the deeper the hole I dug and the more I was lambasted. Some of this was on me as it was a nuanced point I probably failed to get across, but it was suggested I was out of touch, didn't understand the landscape or footy in general, or was advocating dangerous attacks on the footy that would injure players to the extent i "shouldn't be involved in junior footy". 

I never held the view that players should charge around at top speed head first into contests as some of you characterised. I had the view that in this specific scenario with a ball moving towards Lachie (not stationary when you really can get sideways over the ball effectively), Rozee couldn't get side on and therefore Hunter could have contested with his arms in a way that didn't put either head in danger, rather than turning and leading with the hip. This turned out to be pretty close to the finding. 

I support the same team as you so I'm not pleased Hunter is suspended. It is also not a good feeling to have your logic validated by what we can all agree is typically of the most illogical and backward organisations in the country. I didn't even think we would appeal, so I was wrong on that. Maybe we'll appeal again. 

All that said, the comments directed my way in response to what's ultimately been judged to be an appropriate assessment under the current rules were pretty disappointing.

If nothing else, this shows I wasn't on an island like I was made out to be and that some of you should probably revisit your own interpretations of the incident, the rules, your assessment, or at least have some consideration for a point of view that's not your own. 

I originally posted my view knowing it would be unpopular but interested in having the debate. 

Some people responded in the right way but many of you didn't and I was pretty insulted when it was suggested I had complete disregard for head safety or that of our kids.

I'll keep my views to myself next time. Until then, enjoy your echo chamber. 

Wow. More Disneyland.

19 minutes ago, layzie said:

This gets forgotten about a lot lately when these incidents get discussed. It's as if us arguing that the act didn't deserve a suspension means that we think that footy isn't tough enough anymore and that should have been play on. 

The JVR incident was the perfect example of this: Attempted to play the ball, incidental contact high and should have been a free kick against him, period. I believe this should have been the same outcome.

Even more to the point is that Jonas gets a free kick for assaulting McDonald, then gets suspended. Like I say, the AFL Industrial Complex is becoming an even bigger joke.

41 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

What Chest 🤔🤔🤔

42 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Juicy. 

Fruit.

1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I've actually decided to stop watching all other games other than the Demons because I'm so frustrated with how the AFL is operated. If I didn't care about the club so much I could easily just stop going entirely.

I'm on the brink of unfollowing the game period. It's become a farce: inconsistent umpires, different rules for different players, different clubs, corrupt fixtures - we always play Geelong at Geelong, for instance, how often does Collingwood play interstate, etc etc.

Has anyone watched the Franklin tackle I alluded to above? Like I say, he pinned his arms, dumped the North player whose head hit the turf. Nothing !!!!!I think Melbourne should change its name to Geelongcollingwoodsydneycarlton.

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

anyway, nothing wrong with being degenerate.  some of my best friends could be best described as degenerate. and it's not like romsey  (or poland) could be compared to wolf creek.

 

 

... or could they?   hmmmm

What's this wolf creek? Related to Bergmann's Hour of the Wolf?

45 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

did it remind her of the polish countryside?  😅

She texted me: it's flat. That's all she wrote that time.

3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Fair go Goffy !! I always say what I'm knowing.

My wife was on the train which passed your Manor yesterday, on the way to the Fine Arts Centre called Castlemaine. She said it was a very degenerate looking place. Just though I'd pass that on

Just been watching The Round so far: check out at 9.10 into it: Buddy tackles, wraps the players arms and the North player's head bangs into the turf. Then again, there's one rule for the Cripps and Dangerfields and Buddies, another for Melbourne players.

Then at 9.50, a Sydney player shirt fronts a north player in a marking contest. If Christian leaves this alone....

The AFL is full of the word which involves excrement.

13 hours ago, fr_ap said:

Pretty clearly elected to bump in my view..had plenty of time to put his head down and contest. Chose not to, lead with the hip and the player contesting the ball in the right way was collected high as a result. Protecting the player with his head over the footy is literally why these rules exist. Umpire immediately reported so must have thought similiar 

Pretty cut and dry imo, the outrage & bleating is not justified and only shows that most here do not take notice when players on other teams cop their whack for this 

'Pretty clearly elected to bump in my view..had plenty of time to put his head down and contest. Chose not to, lead with the hip and the player contesting the ball in the right way was collected high as a result.'

You must either have tainted vision, or you live in Fantasyland: Hunter at no time attempted to bump. He braced himself when Rozee kept his kamikaze momentum...

13 hours ago, chookrat said:

The club statement on the suspension has left the door open for us to challenge. I suspect the club will look at Hunter's action, whether he elected to bump, and weigh up an appeal based on their odds of a successful challenge.

My take is it's pretty line ball whether Hunter bumped, braced or turned sideways to protect himself and gather the ball in the same motion. Players are allowed to brace or protect themselves when gathering the ball but if they elect to bump then they are in trouble.

A bump implies forward momentum. Hunter simply braced himself.

14 hours ago, fr_ap said:

I must be in the minority on this one but I think it is a clear 1 match suspension. 

Lachie had plenty of time to bend down and try to win that footy with his hands and head down...he didn't and elected to lead with his hip. Yes, Rozee ran into him but Hunter elected not to contest the footy whilst Rozee chased it the right way 

Take the week and move on, I'm pretty far from in love with what Hunter is bringing anyway. Valuable width and positional stuff but he continually asks too much of his teammates by handballing to their feet or kicking scrubbers not to their advantage. Further, he has a gawn-esque hook from a set shot and very hit and miss distance wise. 

Bullfrap!!!!!!!!!

Just as the news came through, I was going to post that Christian will obviously suspend Van R for retaliating at the 16 minute mark of the last quarter.

58 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

NARRM recruit Lachie Hunter has been suspended for one match for his high bump on Connor Rozee.

The MRO cited Hunter for forceful front-on contact, deeming the incident as careless conduct, medium impact and high contact.

What total Bullfrap!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned. 

From what I saw on the television is that Rozee, head down, ran into Hunter who turned side on the protect not only himself, but Rozee.

11 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

What part of an ostrich is that? 😃

Anatomy of ostriches is one of my blind spots.

47 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

That'd be one of Bach's?

Yawohl: then there's Brahms Haydn Variations, not to mention the diabolical Diabelli...And I might have included Elgar's Enigma Variations had he not written Land of Hope and Glory, and Gerontius - both works which are anathema to my sensitive soul. Uncle Bitters of the Romsely Manor would describe the latter works as egregious.

10 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Bitte zurück zum Thema

Variations von ein thema

52 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and i though you were an osterrichisch 😮

 

 

that's german for an ostrich icydk

Yawohl: ick - as JFK put it - bin NICHT ein Berliner. 

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

mein gott!

i can just see the headline in the hun

german savaged by german

ick bin nicht ein berliner!

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

What was your favorite round @Monbon?

I was a postie in Hawthorn in 1980. I quit after a German Shepherd, bounding along 100 metres ahead of its  owner chased me round my bike. I kept yelling F.Off - it had worked with a German Shepherd once before, German, you know, they just follow orders - and when the owner casually sauntered up to us. He said. Don't yell at the dog - you'll frighten it. 

I've spent a lot of time in that region - though not west of Menindie. In other words, Goolwa, Hindmarsh Island, the land across the lake on the western side of Raukann, reaching it via the road from the Wellington Punt north of Lake Alexandrina - beautiful country.