Monbon

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

here ya go

I can't buy Bex anywhere!

53 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Are you referring to Mark Jackson? I can't imagine how difficult it would be to play football either with or against someone like him. 

Yes, the commentators claimed Mark Jackson started it. If you watch the footage, Jackson just got sick of being punched in the head every time he few for a mark,

Yep, he was a clown, but that's hardly relevant to what Matthews did...

5 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

You managed to infer violence in football is due to Anglocentric Colonialism.  

Apparently other non Anglo cultures didn't have violence in their societies.

 

No, Cranky, they didn't incorporate their violence into their sport. Example, Soccer, Fussball... Golf, Tennis, Two Up,  

1 hour ago, Go the Biff said:

Shouldn't be on that list.  Bloke was a star and played fair. Conan was his in club nickname as I recall. 

He's been replaced by Cam brown.

Ayres, by the way, was no saint. Just watch how he and Langford punched Jackson in the head every time he went for a mark in the infamous Mathews/Bruhns match. I was standing on Camberwell railway station listening to it on my Tranni - it meant something else in them days - and they blamed Jackson for the whole shemozzle. However, if you watch the preceding ten minutes or so, you see Geelong attack, Jackson flies, Langford and Ayres behind him punching the back of his head every time. Jackson at first looked at the umpire pleading for justice, then took 'the law' into his own hands and struck back. As usual, the victim became the so-called aggressor. ( I actually have met Gary a few times - he took my job when I left Dorado Wines as a rep in 1984 courtesy of the invitation to leave by the owners. He subsequently bought a Fine Wine Outlet in Middle Park with his Bro and I tried to sell wine to him. A really nice, humble bloke...)

43 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

 

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

if you read his post you will see he was talking about a "win at all costs" culture specifically using violence.

he gratuitously introduced british colonial culture into the discussion for some strange reason.

I merely pointed out many other cultures who employed win at all costs and violence at times in the past

it's not that hard to understand ... even for you

Nah - he was talking about the culture/nation which produced AFL footy.

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

 

38 minutes ago, Monbon said:

No, no, it's not my brain function - that's been zero for years. However, I have checked Wikipedia and, yes, it confirmed that they do not nor ever have played AFL footy in the countries you mentioned. Tru Dinks!!! And, what's more, Wikipedia is AWAYS right: it has, like the BBC now, independent FACT CHECKERS.🤩😎🥰

 

 

And, Daisycutter, I feel so sorry for John Crow Batty because you have labelled him an Anglophobe. How do you know he is not directly descended from Sassenachs?  Which, in itself, is a quandary, because if he was a Sassenach then he may well be an Angle Phobe, because the Sassenachs was the Scottish term for Poms, i.e. Saxons. Therefore, if he was descended just from Angles, the other German tribe - which it delights me to say was what England was named after, ha ha, just as France was named after another German Tribe - the Franks, well, ya gotta get some pleasures in life as a German immigrant,  then he wouldn't by definition be an Anglophobe. See how complicated all this can get?????😋😍😎

22 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i understand monbon ... sometimes your brain just doesn't function well 🤣 get better soon

No, no, it's not my brain function - that's been zero for years. However, I have checked Wikipedia and, yes, it confirmed that they do not nor ever have played AFL footy in the countries you mentioned. Tru Dinks!!! And, what's more, Wikipedia is AWAYS right: it has, like the BBC now, independent FACT CHECKERS.🤩😎🥰

2 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

 

34 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

"what ever it takes to win Anglocentric colonial/settler culture"   puleeze ... get your hand off it

what would you say to the russians, germans, romans, mongols, japanese or the ottomans?

Oh ppllllleeeaaaassseeeee! This is not an 'a mano' job, young man. JCB is describing OUR 'footy culture' as it was in Lethal's time: what does 'Anglocentric colonial/settler culture' have to do with the Japanese, just for starters. Ottomans???? 'russians, germans, romans, mongols', that's a long list of irrelevancies, my friend

AS dey might say in Ireland, I didn't even know dey played footy there!!!.🤣

41 minutes ago, hemingway said:

It’s interesting looking back on these incidents. I enjoy listening to the commentary more than the incidents. 
Jack Edwards, Peter McKenna etc. Looking back we remember the king hits etc but also what went on as part of general play that was accepted and did not involve reports. The head high punches, elbows, and shirt fronts that went on in general play. Players softened one another up week in week out. There were always players that escaped being targeted. As a kid I remember John Peck the Hawks full forward would soften up every opponent with the exception of Tassie Johnson and Wes Lofts because they were two full backs that were not to be trifled with. There was almost a mutual respect between Peck and these two. Tassie would be remembered as a fair player but he had the cold hard stare of an executioner. 

He was too talented as a footballer to just be another executioner...plenty of them in his day...

52 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm trying to work out what the literally qualifies here: the "almost", the "got away", the "murder" or the "week after week". Or perhaps "literally" is (ironically, literally) not the correct word. 🙂

I've got a really bad cold - I've checked for Covid till the cows come home and it ain't - and my wife who has about four degrees - north south east and west, all covered - does semantics wid me, just a peasant, all the time. Not to mention we've both retired and now give each other ruggery 24 hours a day...Woe is me.

So, please, when it comes to Lethal Leigh, no semantics please...per favore, bitte....

41 minutes ago, dice said:

3 weeks.

And as most of us know, the biggest thug of all Leigh Matthews got zero weeks for this:

 

He literally almost got away with murder, week after week. I'll always despise him and everything he stands for.

I should also have Hudson at FF for the Saintly ones

And, I certainly should have included the son of Mal Brown, maybe he takes the place of Ayres.

And, Toby Greens? yes, well.

I have deliberately left out Muir because of the racism he faced. 

14 hours ago, hemingway said:

Our own Rodney Balls Grinter would be disappointed. 

Rodney was molto tuffo, but actually only committed one crime - against Wallace.

I left Ditterich out because I'm sentimental as anything, ditto Danny Hughes and Ray Biffen. 

Then again, if I had to choose who was the most cunning sniper between Ditterich and Don Scott, Scott wins by a mile. Scott's specialty was picking on the little fellas...

7 hours ago, Glorious Day said:

Garfield was not a thug thank you.

Just because he won a Norm Smith against us, doesn't make him that.

'Garfield"? He was a squeaky clean cricketer...

36 minutes ago, layzie said:

Jimmy Stynes in the Saints?

One of the fairest players I've had the chance to see. 

Yep, I had him in the team at 3am but at 4pm today he had slipped  my tiny moind. He's a definite IN, instead of Goodes...

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

Are Dimma and Hardwick the same guy? 

Or is that Dipper?

Yes: one of my remaining 3 brain cells is too clogged up: The Big Dipper, indeed.

During my illness and consequent insomnia - just a bad cold apparently - I have picked 2 teams of my favourite 'Fair and Talented' players, and a list of the players I considered brutal thugs.

Saints:

Alan Johnson, Silvagni, Roos

F,. Davis  Knights, Barry Davis

Grieg Petracca Flower

Davey Hart Rioli - either M. or C.

Farmer Quinlan, Daicos- dad.

P.Farmer, Goodes. Garry Wilson.

INt: Alves, Jeff White, Woewodin, John Shultz, Wanganeen

Thugs: 

Ayres, Andrews , Wallis

Granger ( Port Adelaide) Jess, Hardwick

Rhys Jones, Williams, Dimma

Brereton, Merret, Hodge

Hocking, Lockett, Hall

Scott, Byronia Pickett Matthews

Int: Balme, Selwood, Mclean, Mal Brown, Sheedy, Clarkson

16 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

Lots of focus on our opposition not being amazing but our gold coast win at metricon looks really good to me, as they knocked off the doggies who are in great form. 

And Adelaide yesterday...

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

No Rome wasnt built in a day....burnt in one though

When does anyone suppose we use use as a start-built date then ??

 

That was Nero's fault. He fiddled instead of calling the fire brigade.

Just watched the start of Goodwin's Conference and I basically agree with everything he said. The bottom line is that we lost the last 2 games by a kick and, unlike some respondents on this thread, believe Carlton aren't a bad side. They have obvious deficiencies - I feel sorry that for Silvagni, what. as a ruckman opposed to Gawn????but I don't think they are that far off from becoming more than competitive. 

Also, had we kicked straight...

I'm so happy they've persevered with JVR - played a bloody good game yesterday, way his best.

Good to have Salem and Hunter back...

May, Lever, Rivers, Bowey, and McVee were superb.

Gawn was good - his best game since injury.

6: petracca

5: Gawn

4: Fritsch

3: may

2: Salem

1: Rivers.

10 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Quite frankly im disillusioned by the club.. seemingly wanting justice and fairness and then bottling.

Don't give me ...oh they went into bat for JVR... so they bloody should. They ought to as a default.. That's the point..  it's like a Solicitor exclaiming "objection" ...it's  just done as a matter of course ( given sufficient basis to object of course )

Here there plainly is...

 Carlton, Collingwood etc..  it's their default position.  The league knows it.The league thinks twice with them

They  know we're a lot softer.

I'd go to war against these fools. You dont get change without risk. Push back... push back... call them out. 

Have words to THEM..  suggest they either get fair dinkum or WE'LL  control the narrative.  Well push our barrow through the 4th Estate...  We'll stink it up bad.

You dare to crucify us... we'll call you out

Fair's fair at the same time..  a player actually transgresses...  we'll cop it sweet.

You trump up b.s and NOT hand out the same infringement equally to others then well ask the court of public opinion.

People like an Underdog.... most cant stand the rubbish that the AFL does...it's egos...its fiddling with the game...its B.S. for the boys club

I wouldn't fear Gil.. Dill or any of that lot...  id make them fear us.

Theyre custodians, not owners of the game. 

The best defence is an attack.

Tired of these bullies

Probably coming across as a rant..  

We seem as a club to be often unfairly targetted. If i didn't know better ( and i dont ...lol ) id almost believe there are those in this industry who resent the MFC. Some seem seriously carry a burning fire to smite us at every opportunity. 

You have two choices.... accept it..  or not. In NOT you have to be consistent  lest you are found out

Strength of character is not doing something once...it's doing it everytime you're put back into that position.

Ive never been convinced we have much backbone as a club...  I'm still unconvinced. 

And for that matter the team plays footy the same way..  go hard when its easy..go missing when it isnt.

Same at club level.

That is the definition of club culture.

Ours needs to change.

We're being pushed aside...again.

 

 

 

Hear hear!!!!!!

20 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

Yep, dived straight into or onto Rozee who was also trying to get his hands on the ball. Have you ever played footy? Because if you had, you'd not make such a preposterous statement. For the record, I doubt Gleeson has played footy, other wise he would not have suggested to Hunter that he simply should have stepped aside ...