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mate u got no idea... go look at chucks stats when he has played afl..... go on and let me know if u think hes better than pik 90... ur a battler champ!!!

rhino mate get ur facts straight.. gards is never injusred and hes a good player u watch and eat ur words.... some of u people have no idea... pik 90 for a premiership ruckman and a very capable 24 yr old who finds the footy ALOT wake up would you.... Pik 90... when was the last time a pik 90 did anyhting.. i know for a fact that the cats sacrificed them coz they respected them as people and rate them as players.... i wont be surprised if they dont even use that pik they wanted to find them a home!!!!

pooh... weak.. its obvious to me now that the whole lets trade tj coz we want early piks is false.. they traded him coz they didnt like his off field stuff.... thats clear as water should have offloaded others before tj anyway for early piks green, bruce, miller.... long yr next year and trust me it hurts me to say it

gardiner is a close mate of mine it is confirmed i have spoken to him and yes i do rate him he finished 4th in the VFL best and fairest his has played fifty games and finds the footy alot have a look at his stats this yr in the vfl he kiked swag of goals.... for pik 90 that is a massive plus for the saints

pik 94 for a premiership ruckman and a handy player

great deal for the saints premiership ruckman and handy forward flamker with 50 games under his belt.. and third in VFL best and fairest this yr... Amzing pik up for the saints

i dont like losing our best players either.. but if they have decided to go for youth and get early piks then lets get serious bout it and get early piks..... if that means trading our "so called good players" then lets do it!!! we have traded TJ for a pik lets trade miller for a second round pik and jamar for a thir round pik... makes sense to me..

I think i am being misunderstood.... do we agree it wasnt ability reasons for trading TJ? it was clearly off field issues.. which we all know of.. i got it right earlier in the week when i said TJ will go to brisbane.. Diablo will support that.. and i know for a fact TJ has alot more issues of the field which people are not aware of... i loved him and i am extremely sad to lose him, dont get me wrong... So u wouldnt want to trade Jamar for a third round pik?? i find that incredible!!! and what was the problem with trying to get one more early pik considering we r going for "youth"? id be happy now to sacrifice another 28 yr old big name to get another early pik... and who was the fool that said its a dud draft... u got no idea its an excellent draft

SIS anyone listen to Cameron on the radi last night..... poor i thought!! dodged the questions and did it very badly... first we all agree TJ is a good player.. YES! Cameron last night tried to convince us a number of times that the reason we got rid of him was for draft piks and draft piks only... lets be honest yes we did it for draft piks but we really did it coz hes a bad egg.... it annoys me that when cameron was asked this he didnt have the fruits to say yeh he didnt have a great attitude and he had run out of chances... that annoyed me!! dont lie to us....... Secondly.. he mentioned we need four ruckman.. on our list... Why?? i dont get why? get rid of one for a draft pik.. any pik will do.. but just do it.. if wat cameron said last night bout draft piks and how its the main priority and clearly wqe r cleaning out.. then lets reall clean the joint out.... get as many piks as we can.... i know this will sound ridiculous but get rid of bruce and miller.... lets have a lean yr or two but get 4-5 piks in the top 20 this yr.. The hawks have shown that thats wat you need to really turn the club around.. no point having 2-3 piks early, one in top ten then one in the teens then in the twenties.. lets bust some nuts and get serious bout re building and get seriously involved in the November draft...

Brennan? obviously if we were in the race for judd we have the $$$$ if he is available at pik three of pre season draft.. could we somehow have a chin wag with him and get him on board? he showed something this yr

sorry Diablo.. i didnt see it!! anyway moving on you seem like a passionate supporter like me... im actually really annoyed at the thought of losing TJ for pik 14.... i have a bad feeling he might really turn into a gun to hurt us.. and he definitely has the ability to do so!!! i would like pik 8.. or pik 14 and a player... eg, mcgrath, or a corrie or something.. nothing to over the top but someone that could do a little bit....

Diablo.... are you happy with the deal for TJ to Brisbane....??????????????????????????????????????????

DIABLO?? an apology would be nice..... i think i told you yesterday TJ was in Brisbane did i not??

agreed id like to see bruce go b4 TJ Bruce is a show pony and cant kick..... send bruce to fremantle and get murphy and a draft pik..

Fair enough Diablo I watch alot of the VFL as i have plenty of mates who play in it.... and Gardiner was one who stood out a hell of alot... i think the demons need to get people that are capable of finding the football.... we do not have enough players who can get 20 + possesions... we have one or two who can around 30.. then it drops to the ones who get 10.... to be successful we need some mid tier players the drop from good to bad is to much

Diablo is this a discussion room or do u just hang it on everyone.....of course we are all not going to agree on everything.. but i believe we all barrack for the demons.. Charlie Gardiner is a ball finder thats all.... and when u have blokes like miller and davey etc who i rate highly.. they dont find the footy over 20 times.. Gardiner does.. yes he might lack polish but he gets his hands on it alot!!!!

i trust my source and guarantee TJ will be a lion for wither Pik 11 or Pik 14 do u have an opinion on my comments on his skills.. and how we may lack in the skill area through the guts?

can u guys have a look at charlie gardiners stats for geelong's VFL side this year.... He absolutely killed it!!!! i like him and think he would add something to our forward line!!! he definitely gets alot of it....

I have news from a VERY credible source.. and please dont ask me who it is.. BUT.... TJ will be flying to Brisbane today to meet with Leigh Mathews..... if all goes well Brisbane will give us Pick 11. What we do with Pick 11 i do not know.. but TJ will be a lion if lethal and him have a positive meeting.... IT SADDENS ME... reason being : i know hes a bit inconsistent etc.. but who do we have now in our midfield that can hit a moving target regularly, or hurt teams with there sublime skills...?? i love the demons midfield, dont get me wrong but i think if TJ goes we will lack that little bit of class and his special foot skills! <_<