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That Brisbane game was in the pouring rain... Plenty of run and carry and short kicks too. Too bloody easy.

My god, Melbourne supporters are a bunch of self-righteous, self-indulgent pikers. If you meet with him, tell him your concerns. Mahoney is a genius after the Brisbane game and a dud after the Carlton game. Honestly, if I wasn't one - I'd hate Melbourne supporters.

Not this again?! If we were winning noone would give a sh!t. Walls had a go at Carlton's white strip a couple years back but now they are winning he hasn't said a damn thing. This is people releasing their frustration through anger at side issues. Yeah, we are playing badly but expectations went too high too soon.

Well said. I cannot believe fans think that players not executing properly is a reason to abandon a gameplan. The time to abandon a gameplan is when players are executing but it doesn't result in wins. Plan B is like this mythical go-to criticism of those that don't know what they are criticising. What would be a Plan B for the MFC, something akin to what Collingwood play? Go around the boundary? They are executing that perfectly, and doesn't work a treat against Geelong and St Kilda?

He needs a kick up the arse that's for sure. Someone to yell at him that if he doesn't keep his feet or get in front - he'll be off. Keep him in. I don't think two games is enough rope. Hell, Miller has had over a hundred...

You must pleasure yourself everytime a young Demon miskicks a footy. Honestly...

North and WCE were hardly great games for our tall defenders with Goldstein, Hale, Kennedy, Lynch, and McKinley doing quite a bit. Rivers has 'zoning off' in his DNA - but it is only valuable if midfielders pressure the kick in to the forwardline by Judd, Gibbs, and Murphy. Rivers will get dropped if his form doesn't reverse, of course. I didn't mean this to be Rivers vs Warnock. My primary point is that fans live so much in the imediate week to week of AFL that they can't see that good players get dropped early in their career (McKenzie) and when they are performing below what the team requires (Warnock, Martin, MacDonald) but it does not mean it is the end of their career or that the coaching staff, or they themselves, have 'given up.'

God, you can't drop a bloke can you?! You all go nuts whenever any good player gets dropped. It's apart of footy. You play a few shockers and you get dropped. Warnock has played a few, and, to me, was inexplicably overawed by Podsiadly - didn't watch the ball, unsure in tackling, paid him too much respect. Rivers has been equally poor, but like Garland - has other strings. Garland has a decent attacking instinct, and Rivers is one of the best and selfless readers of the play in the game.

The game starts and ends in the middle.

The life of a Melbourne supporter - fear the worst, and revel in being the first to fear what eventually happens. It's a defence mechanism. Let's grow: Scully will play 250 games for the dees and win a flag or two. Anything else would be disappointing.

I feel like a Black Bear. Grrr.

Not going to bite on this one, Grimes is a very good kick. And one of the best 22 gamers going around. Maybe you should find another dead horse to [censored], Freak. Hmmm?

Uh, thanks? I always fine that insults work better when they are insults.

Somebody's a misogynist... A boon for DLand this bloke is.

Absolutley. He looked tired today. Dar-win at a cost? And I wouldn't get ansty about JB being unable to properly summise in three words. Hard to do. Must be incredibly busy, JB. Only has time for the 22 names and a further 66 words. That's 88 words. Mustn't be paid by the word I guess...

Grimes can play midfield. Jones can play midfield. Grimes can play HBF. Jones cannot play HBF. Grimes can play midfield. Moloney can play midfield. Grimes can play HBF. Moloney cannot play HBF. Grimes can play midfield. Scully can play midfield. ... Get my drift? Grimes may end up in the midfield but as a HBF he is valuable for his vision, his skills, his run, and his ability to beat his opponent and help out his teammates. He doesn't seem to be getting the plaudits he deserves; he's played 22 games. 22.

Read a bit more of the thread, Chook. But thankyou for being inflamed.

After today, I fail to see the path the coaching staff are taking us down... Does that inflame anyone? It inflames me.

What I am saying is that if enough players get paid $50k more than they should then that will push out a very good player.

When? On what topic? Sometimes I think 'groupthink' is the narcissists way of explaining away the utter rejection of a particular thought he has by everyone around him. He/she didn't get called a troll because of what he/she posted - the troll accusation comes when you have never posted before and your first post is inflammatory. And it is their right to call him a troll. And his/her right to refute. Everyone is so bloody sensitive. Again, some on here should get a blog and disable the comments. They, and I, would be a lot happier.

Yeah. Or... Post what you want but don't expect the nonsense you spew out of your keyboard to be left untreated. When I see some sh!t, I point it out, flush it, and send it to Werribee. It's a forum. If you want to spew and not have anyone call you out - get a blog and disable the comments.

The problem comes with giving those major pay days and having to give some players more than they should get. If 8 players get $50k more than they should, that is one very good player that will be forced out in a later year. Let's say we are paying $7.95m as people are claiming and we are paying about 85-90% of that in real terms (the p.a. average of a contract) then we are taking $1.2 to $800k out of a future cap and putting it into 2010. I'm worried that this hole a couple of years down the track will inflate a few contracts, only slightly, but enough to have an impact. Remember, you have to pay someone, and if our senior players are on a pittance than our talented youth will be on marquee wages.

Well, you restrained yourself. I was expecting you to call me weak 5 times in different ways in a wall of text that would make Tolstoy cringe. Progress.

Aaron wouldn't. His agent might. Moving on. My problem, and you all will have to bear with me because it is involved, surrounds what might happen in two years/three years time when our best players are on their small-back contracts and we have to find homes for $8.5m (or even 92.5% of $8.5m) that we will pay our young talent over the odds to reach the minimum as our senior players are taking so little of the cap. Have a think about it. I'm sure Harrington will be grappling with it very soon.

Fitzpatrick is how long away?!!? You have got to be kidding me. This is where most posters would comment on your age but I won't. Above all that. I will say this, if you think Jack Watts will come on next year you are optimistic, if you think Fitzpatrick will come on next year you're hepped up on goof balls. And a forward line with Watts, Jurrah, Petterd, and Bate will be fine with marking enough ball - mainly because Scully, Trengove, McKenzie, Gysberts, Bennell, and Grimes will be shovelling it down their throat - with quality and quantity - for a decade.