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Anyway it seems like a lot of people are partial to the move anyway so maybe I'm wrong!!

1 hour ago, Macca said:

It's more about the total broadcast rights money ... the last broadcast deal was worth $2.518Billion

That buys you a big say in proceedings

So it's not necessarily about the extra 2% or 4%

Not that I'm siding either way, more so pointing out the reality of the situation

As it stands, 7 of the other 8 finals games are played in the evening with the other final played as a twilight fixture (in the 1st week of the finals)

Again, I'd prefer a day GF

It doesn't buy you any say in proceedings. The AFL decides scheduling. They have decided to absolutely maximise profit by shifting the granny, rather than still make a killing albeit slightly less because they kept a tradition of the game intact. 

These kinds of things are presented as "the way the world's going" and "inevitable" but they're actually not. In reality the wishes of fans who come week in week out for decades are taking a backseat to the last 5% of people who don't really care but are more likely to switch on if it's at night. 

25 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

They've never done that before, so why start now?

Indirectly, though, this is giving the fans what they want. Fans want the best possible game on Grand Final day, whenever it's played. That only comes about if there's enough money to pay the players what they deserve. And that, as we know, fundamentally means that the game needs TV money to be as high as 

A version of this argument gets trotted out for every unpopular change to the game's traditions. It made sense when the game was semi-professional but not now that the players earn big bucks. What would be the impact on the standard of play if the players' wages increased by 2% instead of 4%? A small amount of extra profit does not automatically equal a better game. 

Yuck. Just wanted one normal one before they ruin it with disco lights etc. 

6 hours ago, one_demon said:

I thought exactly the same thing.  Success for Melbourne supporters is a foreign concept, we don't know how to process it

I've gotten used to it straight away 😂😂

Long live Maysie. MFC legend.

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Hard to hate the perf sides now, after the way they embraced us for the Grand Final.

 

Actually, I lied. [censored] the eagles. Lets keep the bastards goalless all day.

Agree with the first part of this. Would normally want to punish a big club like WC but surely thousands of them supported us at the granny.

Doesn't get enough credit imv. MFC Legend.

25 minutes ago, PartyTimeJohnny said:

lots of moving of goal posts from people on here. It's not important because of tv ratings,  bad time slots. etc
bottom line is low attendance at the MCG costs the club lots of money. 
All good if you are still worried about covid, that's fair I think. 
But overall I think we all know that lots of our fans just don't turn up, and we're discovering that even a premiership won't make them. 

No I don't think that's right at all based on the various stats posted throughout this thread.

I was disciplined like tmac and didn't start crying until after his goal sailed through 😂

5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That's not really true, at least according to the latest Roy Morgan poll.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8799-afl-supporter-ladder-june-2021-202109210357

Anyhow, I'm not expecting us to get 60k to games against clubs like GWS/GC like the Pies and Tigers do when they're up and about (the Tigers drew 90k plus to the Prelim against GWS!). 35k-40k is not unreasonable for us I would have thought.

My apologies. I thought we had about 200k and Collingwood/Essendon/Carlton all had 800k-1mil. But that is clearly incorrect. Thank you for posting that link. 

However, Melbourne does get a higher attendance to fan ratio and higher member to fan ratio than almost any other club. Importantly, this was the case even when we were garbage. I think we have a small, loyal and passionate supporter base. The fact we aren't getting runaway attendances post a premiership actually shows how passionate and loyal our fans are. Many here are arguing the opposite.

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

This is a furphy. If Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton etc were coming off a flag and undefeated and we were meandering around the middle-bottom of the ladder we would not be looking at the same numbers. You are not comparing apples with apples, we are coming off a drought-breaking flag and sitting on top of the ladder undefeated. Our crowds realtive to club's like Essendon are irrelevant. It is a continual poor turnout from Melbourne supporters who had the excuse of night games, week night games, Easter holiday. Those excuses were not there Saturday so where was everyone? We would've been lucky to have had 25k of the 40k there.

Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon have literally 4-5 times as many supporters as us.

4 hours ago, deanox said:

Our average home game attendance this year is higher than the best seasons' average home game attendance EVER achieved by 10 sides: Hawthorn, Geelong, Brisbane, Fremantle, Footscray, St Kilda, North Melbourne, Sydney, GWS, GCS!

It is equivalent to the top few seasons ever for Port Adelaide, West Coast, Carlton.

And that includes a "shocker" crowd against GWS.

Obviously Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond and Adelaide are way out in front.

 

It'll probably drop a bit. We have home games against 4 interstate teams to come, including one at Trager Park. And our two marquee games this year (Anzac and QBDY) are away games, costing us probably ~5k in "average" attendance.

More stats that show it is actually going well.

Hmmm but we wouldn't want to let the actual data get in the way of good old fashioned hysteria.

When its a 6 day break vs a 5 day break, the 6 day break team always wins. Plus we are heaps better. 26 point win coming up.

I know a lot of hawks fans who are fine and a lot who are arrogant flogs. I try and be fair with who i dish it out to 😂

We don't get big crowds cos we don't have many fans. Being premiers only has a marginal influence on that. It's a beat up cos we're premiers and people are jealous of us.

Crowds are down across the comp. It's not specific to Melbourne. 

The other thing is, we don't have many fans.

I reckon it should be 15 million for 9 years!!

2 hours ago, BigFez said:

Sounds a lot like the Port supporters last week.  Please Melbourne beat us by a lot so our coach gets sacked.

I was going to say that! Opposition fans don't dread playing us - they see it as an opportunity to get their coach sacked.

Smith is not coming in for Tomlinson. We have played two gorillas at the back for the last 7,000 weeks in a row.

59 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

The 2000 and teens were the first decade with no wooden spoons since the 1940’s

We were bottom in 08.

Might not have been too pretty going forward, but we are arguably the best defensive team in the history of the game. 

Yeh he was talking about Sandy. But there has been a trend to more private school players in the AFL. I imagine it's solely down to the scholarships.

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I love Thursday night games (one more day of footy) but not when we're involved. Much prefer to see us play on Friday night or the weekend.

Hopefully this is our last Thursday night game of the year unless we're at the G.

Agree with this. Love Thursday nights but not us!

On 4/2/2022 at 11:38 AM, Roost it far said:

We’re not the Hawks I’m afraid

Not yet but let's revisit this in a couple of years 😂