Clintosaurus

He's a real JT pick. Lalor/Jagga at 5.

Just like all the other ones where the 'club is a shambles' group trade barbs with everyone else, but especially the ones they consider to be putting a halo on the club.

And didn't get to the club he actually wanted to go to. Pies must have a better arrangement with Connors.

Seems the opinions in here closely reflect opinions about the club in general.

No need to panic. Pre-season still weeks away.

And Geelong have way more influence over the media that we do. Plus the pile-on means the gap is even greater.

And a huge amount of media pile-on to add to what has been going on since August.

If Jagga is still there I think we have to take him

By winning the Norm in a flag next year.

Interesting that Houston wanted to go to Carlton. Pies actually third choice.

Purple Headed Warrior

For those with some knowledge - how much of the 'mess' is actual mess, and how much is media and player manager chatter? Not certain on the timelines, but I'm sure Houston changing his mind was the same time that John Noble wanted out of the Pies, and given Connors knew Houston wanted out, not a stretch to think the Petracca 'drama' had other clubs looking to usurp us.

Nah the narrative will continue until all our good players have left and we are 1:10 every Sunday.

Barrett is a total [censored]. No wonder Spud used to club him every Saturday on Triple M.

So the media hysteria got him to their beloved Pies instead of us? Well done media!! Would the timeline be aligned to when John Noble said he wanted out?

Also took a copy of the Collingwood playbook to Carlton.

Taj Hotton looks a JT pick. Couple of fantastic games for Sandy before the ACL.

Wasn't someone in here potting him for not getting us a gun key forward? Cos they grow on trees and other clubs will trade them for pick 135.

Philly, Cincy, Baltimore

Of course the club isn't perfect, but it isn't as [censored] as some on here seem to want it to be or claim it is. The media's ability to almost unchallenged say we are a total shambles is prime in shaping perception. Either way, winning solves everything. Although not enough for some.

Job well done by the media. Mission accomplished.

That is also what the media spend most of the trade period advocating for. Can include Geelong in that. Most other clubs - well nobody would want to go there according to Manure, Morris etc.

What do we need to know other than the reviews have been received and the club will be implementing the findings?

Neither review needs public airing. Some changes will be obvious to see. Others not so. No point giving Barrett etc more ammo.

Bit of editorialising at the end. He's hoping to say I told you so.