Half forward flank

Knocking back four years at 750 and wanting more. tells us they are a couple that very much care about money. Nothing wrong with that but let us stick to the facts.

Sorry, but it is both. Brown got involved in Board politics and other......

You are joking.

Mismanagement. TMac, harmes and Brayshaw reads very badly. Deceipt Selling Tomlinson to Members as a wingman. Mis-judgement Lever

He made a massive error not taking Norths big $$$ last year. This year got involved in Club/Board politics.

Good summary. Thanks. Extremely surprised and disappointed we havent worked on a mid age player to fill one of our weaknesses as in the Langdon deal.

Brown will go where the money is.

No

Club not happy with Brown

beware of Greeks bearing gifts

He gave his best. Think the coaches needed to add a few tricks to his game.

Kangas offered Brown 750 4 year deal, a year ago. Value him about half that now for their own reasons, some to do with off field but not the usual bad behaviour, drugs, booze etc. Club politics being one.

Offical. Ben brown has someone running his life and has changed priorities.. More interested in being a PC warrior than just doing his job as a player. Not just letting the player into the Club.

over rated if not given prime mid time the lot of them.

What exactly has oliver done that says he is getting petulant.

It will likely end in tears.

Poor management and decision making. Knocked back 4 years at $750 last year. North had a gutful. Buyer beware.

Great, so important to develop a structure for the indigenous lads. They are a gift to any Club who provides the infastructure.

Lost opportunity, and a big one. Viney wanted Wines, not that that should dictate but what it would have done is set the grunt up for a decade, and then focus on the more skilled mids and outside players. Gee, some on here hang on to draft guides , useless stats and game reports out SA, for ..... sake.

Home state clubs interested. Less keen if we lose Jettas influence

Meaningless quote. We just could not resist the Brighton Grammar boy with the blond hair. And the idiots at melb had to justify by saying the young ruckman, NicNat had a kicking skill issue. As we know, ruckman are renowned for their kicking skills. Hopeless. Argue all you like. I would have taken NicNat and he turned out the better player

Well, so what. I took one look first game and thought he was undersized, soft and underwhelming. Had a few tricks that got found out in no time. Skilled by foot, yeah 30 metre kicks.

No.

A bit difficult with first pick in the 20s but thanks for the acknowlegment and interest. I would take Smith on 3 years. Ben Brown will just be a savings club fund player for us. So no, to him unless the deal is in our favour. See ya Brayshaw, lets do a deal. Open to Jessie

Last I knew ruck skills included more than just centre bounces. Pathetic pedantic and ridiculous response. or are you trying to limit being a ruckman to centre bounces. which ever way you flip it I thought Jacks junior career was underwhelming for a first pick and would have taken Nicnat. So you can Nic off.