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poor bloke will be having nightmares. it was a shocking mistake. He had a great H&A season but didn't influence finals like i thought he would (he wasn't alone there). Hopefully the team can regroup and have another crack next year. and hopefully more luck with injuries

6. Hanks (if only we had a male equivalent for the mens team) 5. Hore 4. Pearce 3. Mithen 2. McNamara 1. Macken Great contributors all round and no passengers really.

The girls are in great shape. Playing with confidence, scoring heavily and moving the ball with real purpose. Hard to know where we stand until we face the Crows, Lions and North but so far we've blown all our opponents out of the water (and to their credit the doggies were game and had a real dip today but were just outclassed by us) Hanks superb. She's a cut above every player in this league. always has time and rarely wastes a possession. Hore very good. Pearce played well today (and ably assisted by Campbell who i've been very impressed by this year). Lily always gets stuck in. West just barrels through contests. Heath is the female Nev Jetta. tough as. We have outside flair in Mackin and McNamara and up top we have 2 great targets in Harris and Zanker. We have all the tools. I'm very confident about the season ahead. We're going to be hard to stop. Go Dees

hollywood style

Eliza West should keep it simple and just dish it off. butchered a great opportunity there because of poor disposal

Pearces tap work has been excellent today

That was a seriously dumb 50 the doggies player gave away there. And Hanks punishes the stupidity. Hanks is my favourite player. top notch ball use and great composure. Hore was good first quarter but a little wayward in the second. Fair play to the doggies. they're game and having a real crack here.

Purcell misses a sitter. Playing well in general but goal kicking is poor.

the wind is spoiling this game as usual. I really don't like Casey Fields.

hope bannan isn't too badly injured. looks like a bad sprain of the ankle

Tyla Hanks. never wastes a possession.

is there anything in life as reliable as the Casey gale. 3 goal per quarter breeze by the looks of it.

Thought I should add I had no problems with the Carlton supporters around me at the game or on the train home.

Would take a ridiculous offer. If they offer Jordan Dawson as part of the deal perhaps

@picket fence would know how to deal with this.

4. Burn down the MCG

During the finals campaign of 21 we were purring. Moving the ball with purpose and freedom and belief. What inspired that? Where has that gone? We play with too much fear now. The balance is slanted too much towards defence in my opinion. I don’t know if its in Goody’s make up or not but the players have to be allowed to express themselves sometimes. There’s a weight holding them down the last 2 seasons. It’s all system system system. And system is important, don’t get me wrong, but players need to be let play. I think the straight jacket is impacting our decision making. We take the safe option or wrong option too often. And I might just be talking through my hat. But if I’m a player I’d rather die with my boots on than be caught out playing the percentages over and over and losing in the same way.

You're in a spiral deever. today is depressing but don't do this to yourself. its just a game at the end of the day its a beautiful day so i'm heading out now with the family. Watch our womens team later. life goes on

I don't think the captaincy would suit Trac at all. Reckon it would weight him down. Max is captain until he retires. Yes he missed kicks last night but he has never been a good kick. Maybe someone like Rivers in a couple of years could be a good option once he has more experience.

We should trade aggressively to get this pick. Take 4 and 5 to the draft and let JT work his magic. Get some top end talent in to address some list gaps.

I'm looking forward to watching the girls play as well. I love how they go about it. Joy to watch. I love Maxy and the boys as well but watching them play is draining. It's almost suffocating. I think we'll win big again today. The doggies have really fallen away the last year or 2. Dees by 30+ points

1. luck with injuries in particular Petty. He's injury prone which is a worry. 2. Find a KPF from somewhere. No idea where from. 3. freshen up the game plan. We play in a straight jacket. show some dash and dare. Rivers the only candidate in the team that shows any. 4. some new assistant coaches. We need some new ideas. 5. Trade up for GCs pick 4 and take our 2 high picks to the draft. Bring in some high-end talent. JT will work his magic for us.

I don't think we were good enough to win this year. a record of 16W and 9L clearly demonstrates that. We weren't beating Lions next week. Forward injures cruelled us. And our game plan needs to be freshened up. We have no dash or dare. JVR was great this year. As was McVee. We developed some good young players so there are positives. Can we find a KPF from somewhere to partner Petty and JVR? I hope so

I know today is depressing but I don’t want his performance forgotten about amidst the doom and gloom. Magnificent last night he can hold his head high. Keep his nerve when all around him was a collective clusterf. Curnow was a non factor thanks to him. Has been AA standard the past 4 years Wanted him as captain a couple of years back. We know he let himself down badly with that incident with Melks but boy he has turned it around. I think he’s the best traded in player we’ve ever had Will go down as a Dees legend come what may. I love your work Maysey. (mods: not sure if there's an old appreciation thread for May so feel free to merge if there is)

Selection can always be questioned and i don't think its the reason we lost. You can always talk up the potential performance of the player left out against the actual performance of the player that played. But the TMac selection just has to be questioned. He offered nothing. And not subbing in Schache. Bizarre decisions.