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I reckon mate, very envious of the way they've gone about refreshing that list (with or without Scharenberg).

I thought the Pies got a steal when he slid down to 6, but he could well demand a trade back home without playing a game for Collingwood.

Fairly certain Billings is the one we would have selected.

Any word on whether we have?

As we continually butchered the ball yesterday (and last week, and the week before that) Parish was the player that came to mind as our number 1 preference/need in the draft. Milera should be the other one if Parish is gone (although pick 6ish will be regarded as too high, late first rounder the mark for him).

Fair point on the recruiting of senior players. Not saying the Sainters young blokes aren't good, just that they weren't the ones that drove the victory yesterday. The youngsters are comparable and only time will tell whether Salem, Petracca, ANB and Omac (+Brayshaw & Hogan who played Sunday). Jake Niall wrote an article about this on the Age over the weekend: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-demons-better-placed-for-future-title-run-than-st-kilda-saints-20150725-gikghj.html

Have a look at the Saints best players on Sunday vs ours. Riewoldt, Gilbert, Dempster and Schneider are seasoned campaigners and even Roberton is mid 20's. Their experienced players led the way in the wet. Viney and Gawn were by far our best yesterday. We were beaten by a better team, no doubt. Saints did everything better than us yesterday and I was very impressed by their tackling pressure and contested ball, and their blueprint looks good. They consistently broke our tackles, and their tackles stuck. They also had all but one player get at least 10 disposals (not including the sub), we had four. Michie came on and got 9 in limited time. Stretch needs a spell, and Vandenberg looks to be struggling now as well. However, Saints fans are still looking at that team and wondering how long it will take before the young blokes are the ones that step up in these sorts of games. Riewoldt, Gilbert, Dempster and Schneider are not the future for the Saints. Our recruiters need to continue to build the team, next on the list has to be a player that can use the ball well. Getting Salem back will help, as will Petracca next year, but we still have too many sloppy kicks on the team.

Melbourne for Prestia, Carlton for Treloar (he idolised Juddy).

His defensive running and accountability probably the ones that come up the most. Kicking can sometimes be untidy, and at 182cm isn't quite the big bodied midfielder that's in vogue. That said, his positives still outweigh the negatives. Wins plenty of ball inside and outside, very good pace, aggression and goal kicking from midfield make for a very good footballer.

Treloar sweepstakes appear on in ernest. Would hope that we would at least buy a ticket... http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/gws-adam-treloar-likely-to-leave-for-victorian-club-20150723-gij9i3.html

Yes please.

Sure, in terms of volume of statistical output, there probably isn't a sample large enough to make a statistically meaningful comparison between NicNat and Gawn. That might take one or two more seasons, really. There's also the age factor. Whilst they're only one draft apart, Gawn was very young for his draft year and virtually a year and a half younger than Naitanui. Add the fact that Gawn lost his draft year + 2012, he still has a fair bit of development in front of him. What I would say is the traits that Gawn possesses and has shown off in game allow you to make a judgement of what he is capable of doing on a regular basis. His skillset is already beyond a number of experienced ruckman in the AFL which makes him a pretty valuable commodity. If he continues to utilise that skillset over time, then the stats will really just add to his value and allow for a more meaningful comparison between he and NicNat. Issue with the comparisons are that despite being (potentially) dominant ruckman, they both have very distinct points of difference, which are game breaking. I rate what NicNat brings, and also think Maxy's going to be a very good player for us over the journey.

True, but there's no reason to think that Gawn's stats will grade out dramatically by the end of the season. There’s no question that Gawn’s sample size is small by comparison to NicNat’s. It doesn’t mean you can’t extrapolate some meaningful observations from what he’s put up in that time. NicNat will continue to be the most athletic big man in the competition and his clearance work is exceptional for a 200cm player. What he doesn’t have is the ability to read play well enough to get around the ground as a link up option ala Cox or marking forward option. His best footy is going to be around the ball. What we’ve seen from Gawn is the ability to link up, take multiple contested marks and be a presence around the ground. He won’t be the stoppage influence that NicNat is, but his tapwork has been very good all the same. His chase down tackles have also been impressive. There’s no reason to think that Gawn won’t be able to provide these things going forward, he should only improve from here. The traits and capabilities won't disappear, but trick is consistency.

Don't imagine that Port would take that for Wines, and I haven't heard any noise about him wanting to leave yet. That said, Wines is off contract in 2016 and we should maintain contact just in case he entertains leaving at that point. He'd be close to the no.1 young midfielder at any club that I'd love us to have.

I notice Will Langford still hasn't re-signed with the Hawks, and it doesn't seem like happening anytime soon. Wonder if Roosy has our list manager chasing a Joey Kennedy style raid on the Hawks.

Would be happy enough to throw a rookie lifeline to Butcher or Todd Elton, who could be on the way out at Richmond. Crozier another we could get cheaply.

Possibly even the odd relative. He comes from a family of keen Dee supporters.

Can't help but think of Garry Lyon's 'big call for 2015' when Classified returned this year. Along the lines of one of the Sun's stars would become a Demon (he might have mumbled Prestia when pressed by Hutchy).

Can't agree. Prestia wins most of his ball on the inside , which has affected his DE stats, but has a thumping kick. Can go outside too, but GCS have been light on for inside mids, so Prestia has exclusively played inside. His burst speed is very good. Hasn't kicked a lot of goals, but has kicked important ones for GC (is a better kick on the run than set shot though). Prestia's probably been the Sun's second best mid over the last three years, and one of the few that stepped up in Gary's absence last year. Don't worry too much about his height. It was supposed to see him drop in his draft year, but he still went at pick 9 and has been one of the best performed players of the 2010 draft class. If anything, his value might have appreciated, or at worst held. Certainly has not depreciated.

It sounds like we were offering a comparable (to Tigers & North offer to Treloar) package to Hannebury, but put an offer on Hannebury’s table well after others had. Wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened here. We’ve seen with the Boyd deal last year, things can move quickly in the modern age of player movement.

So he's in play then: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-and-north-melbourne-target-adam-treloar-with-long-term-deals/story-fndv8lf1-1227430948775

Anyone know if Adam Treloar is any closer to re-signing, or do we think he's in play?

Read somewhere that O'Meara's girlfriend lives in Melbourne. Jaeger presents as a very professional, focused footballer. May well want away from the laughing stock of a culture that currently exists at the Suns.

Would love us to try and shake Tomlinson out of GWS. Some sort of combination of he and Plowman or Hampton would make me very happy.

I think he'd be well worthy looking at, and may not be costly. Talented & pacy.